Right. If it is true that kids are getting out of school barely being able to program their way out of a paper bag it is really astounding to me that startups

Right. If it is true that kids are getting out of school barely being able to program their way out of a paper bag it is really astounding to me that startups are not actively seeking programmers with ten or more years of experience to get things done. At the very least there has to be room there for some kind of a consulting position to guide away from bad decisions. Of course, there are people so set in their ways that they simply refuse to keep up with technology. We are not talking about that group here, least I don't think so.