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In Ubuntu I'm unable to activate orgtbl-mode unless I first switch to org-mode. This didn't happen with Emacs 23. Has anybody experienced the same? How can I ch

In Ubuntu I'm unable to activate orgtbl-mode unless I first switch to org-mode. This didn't happen with Emacs 23. Has anybody experienced the same? How can I check if this has been reported? Thanks. Edit: Seriously, people? You take the time to downvote and not to point in a direction to contribute to make Emacs better? So much for the attacks on Stack Overflow and its strict policies and policing... And anyway, how off topic is this comment? Peace.

technomancy 12y ago
Hacker News is not a great place for bug reports, just saying.
- ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
  I'm asking for guidance, since I don't know where to file what I consider a clear bug, and where to check first. (Ubuntu? GNU?) Instead, I already received a downvote and this... Thanks, anyway.
  - andrewflnr 12y ago
    Probably an Emacs-specific support forum would have been a good choice, assuming you used Google first and didn't find anything. HN certainly was not. I didn't downvote you, but it looks a lot like you didn't try to do your own homework, because it's not that hard. Either one of the places you mentioned would have been better. That's probably why you were downvoted.
    - ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
      Thank you, Andrew. I guess I can also see why I could be downvoted, though it is sad that those with downvoting powers don't let not-so-thrilling comments "just sink" to the bottom of the page instead of downvoting, which in my mind should be left to destructive, offensive or just completely unrelated stuff. Best regards.
  - broodbucket 12y ago
    You should use the new Emacs StackExchange! It's the perfect place for these types of questions. emacs.stackexchange.com
ibrahima 12y ago
How'd you get Emacs 24.4 on Ubuntu? Is there a PPA or did you compile from source?
- ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
  I just ran apt-get install emacs24, which has given me so far version 24.3.1. Cheers.
omaranto 12y ago
Try adding (require 'org-table) to your .emacs. My guess is that you only have (require 'org-install) or something like that currently. (Running the org-mode function will load several org libraries, including org-table, if they aren't loaded already, which is why orgtbl-mode does work after the first use of org-mode in the setup I'm guessing you have.)
- ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
  Thanks a lot for replying! That did it! Although I haven't tried the latest version, I know for a fact this wasn't necessary with version 23, which is puzzling.
  - omaranto 12y ago
    By "puzzling", I guess you mean "good (yay for modularization!)". :)
wging 12y ago
There's actually a StackExchange site specifically for emacs now: https://emacs.stackexchange.com https://emacs.stackexchange.com
- ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
  Thanks, wging, I will keep that in mind. Still, I wish HN were more open to these not-so-off-topic questions. Happily, I have received an on-target reply, which rocks!

technomancy 12y ago

Hacker News is not a great place for bug reports, just saying.

ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
I'm asking for guidance, since I don't know where to file what I consider a clear bug, and where to check first. (Ubuntu? GNU?) Instead, I already received a downvote and this... Thanks, anyway.
- andrewflnr 12y ago
  Probably an Emacs-specific support forum would have been a good choice, assuming you used Google first and didn't find anything. HN certainly was not. I didn't downvote you, but it looks a lot like you didn't try to do your own homework, because it's not that hard. Either one of the places you mentioned would have been better. That's probably why you were downvoted.
  - ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
    Thank you, Andrew. I guess I can also see why I could be downvoted, though it is sad that those with downvoting powers don't let not-so-thrilling comments "just sink" to the bottom of the page instead of downvoting, which in my mind should be left to destructive, offensive or just completely unrelated stuff. Best regards.
- broodbucket 12y ago
  You should use the new Emacs StackExchange! It's the perfect place for these types of questions. emacs.stackexchange.com

ibrahima 12y ago

How'd you get Emacs 24.4 on Ubuntu? Is there a PPA or did you compile from source?

ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
I just ran apt-get install emacs24, which has given me so far version 24.3.1. Cheers.

omaranto 12y ago

Try adding (require 'org-table) to your .emacs. My guess is that you only have (require 'org-install) or something like that currently. (Running the org-mode function will load several org libraries, including org-table, if they aren't loaded already, which is why orgtbl-mode does work after the first use of org-mode in the setup I'm guessing you have.)

ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
Thanks a lot for replying! That did it! Although I haven't tried the latest version, I know for a fact this wasn't necessary with version 23, which is puzzling.
- omaranto 12y ago
  By "puzzling", I guess you mean "good (yay for modularization!)". :)

wging 12y ago

There's actually a StackExchange site specifically for emacs now: https://emacs.stackexchange.com https://emacs.stackexchange.com

ezequiel-garzon 12y ago
Thanks, wging, I will keep that in mind. Still, I wish HN were more open to these not-so-off-topic questions. Happily, I have received an on-target reply, which rocks!