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Emacs has a web browser?

by sillysaurus3 12y ago

nandhp 12y ago
> Highlights of this release include: A built-in web browser (M-x eww)
ephemeralgomi 12y ago
It's had w3 for quite a while. 'eww' is new.
- Derbasti 12y ago
  IIRC, w3 was an external program while eww is built entirely in elisp.
  - chriswarbo 12y ago
    w3 is written in ELisp and runs in Emacs http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3 http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3 w3m is an external program, which Emacs has a wrapper for http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3m http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3m
    - Derbasti 12y ago
      My apologies then, since I did not remember correctly. Thank you for enlightening!
- ams6110 12y ago
  It's still text-mode though (it will show images inline). There was a project to integrate webkit into an emacs browser mode but not sure where that stands.
davidw 12y ago
It has sockets, so... pretty much anything you can do with those, you can do with Emacs. * Email (gnus) * NNTP (gnus) * IRC Come to mind offhand.
- stinkytaco 12y ago
  Slightly off-topic, but is there still much NNTP use out there other than piracy related? I was a heavy NNTP user once upon a time, but all the public groups I once used seem to be overrun by spam and private ones seem to have gone in favor of email. I would expect there's a quite a few private servers out there to warrant continual updating in a program like emacs.
  - edavis 12y ago
    I use NNTP to follow a handful of development mailing lists via gmane.org.
  - callahad 12y ago
    I prefer to consume mailing lists via Gmane's NNTP gateway: http://gmane.org/ http://gmane.org/ It's a surprisingly nice experience. You can really easily pull archives, nntp clients tend to handle threading well, etc.
    - thristian 12y ago
      Relevant to this subthread, Gmane's maintainer is also the maintainer of Gnus, so the Gmane web UI is (I'm told) surprisingly familiar for Gnus users.
  - pjmlp 12y ago
    D development forums are NNTP, although there is a forum as well. I really prefer the keyboard navigation and all the niceties offered by Thunderbird than the web groups interface, each with its own set of allowed actions, mostly without keyboard navigation.
  - pyviennacl 12y ago
    Sure: I use NNTP for my RSS/Atom feeds and my mailing lists, using the excellent gateways at http://gmane.org/ http://gmane.org/ and http://gwene.org/ http://gwene.org/
  - zafiro17 12y ago
onedognight 12y ago
> Emacs has a web browser? At one point there were only two web browsers in the world, one was Mosaic (Mozilla is short for Mosaic Killer) and one was W3 (the emacs web browser).
- gsnedders 12y ago
  Um, what about WorldWideWeb, the original NeXTSTEP browser/editor (by TimBL) which predates both of them?
- hackuser 12y ago
  I don't think Mosaic was the original browser and I believe others predated Emacs, such as Lynx. Here's Wikipedia's version of events, for what it's worth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_web_browser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_web_browser
troels 12y ago
And a mail client. It's pretty much an operating system.
- agumonkey 12y ago
  Someone please try the emacs as init with this release.
  - broodbucket 12y ago
    Someone's already tried this. http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html?repost http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux....
    - agumonkey 12y ago
      I know, this dates back from emacs 21.3. I wanted to know if someone had the time and skills to replicate the experiment with 24.4
    - flyrain 12y ago
      It's very interesting. It seems a neat solution. Anyone go further? Really work on it?
  - agumonkey 12y ago
    I tried to compile emacs statically but under archlinux I need to build ncurses (and probably others) statically too. Which is too much of a black art to me. Gonna try on debian since I believe they include static binairies in packages.

Emacs has a web browser?

nandhp 12y ago

> Highlights of this release include: A built-in web browser (M-x eww)

ephemeralgomi 12y ago

It's had w3 for quite a while. 'eww' is new.

Derbasti 12y ago
IIRC, w3 was an external program while eww is built entirely in elisp.
- chriswarbo 12y ago
  w3 is written in ELisp and runs in Emacs http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3 http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3 w3m is an external program, which Emacs has a wrapper for http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3m http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/w3m
  - Derbasti 12y ago
    My apologies then, since I did not remember correctly. Thank you for enlightening!
ams6110 12y ago
It's still text-mode though (it will show images inline). There was a project to integrate webkit into an emacs browser mode but not sure where that stands.

davidw 12y ago

It has sockets, so... pretty much anything you can do with those, you can do with Emacs. * Email (gnus) * NNTP (gnus) * IRC Come to mind offhand.

stinkytaco 12y ago
Slightly off-topic, but is there still much NNTP use out there other than piracy related? I was a heavy NNTP user once upon a time, but all the public groups I once used seem to be overrun by spam and private ones seem to have gone in favor of email. I would expect there's a quite a few private servers out there to warrant continual updating in a program like emacs.
- edavis 12y ago
  I use NNTP to follow a handful of development mailing lists via gmane.org.
- callahad 12y ago
  I prefer to consume mailing lists via Gmane's NNTP gateway: http://gmane.org/ http://gmane.org/ It's a surprisingly nice experience. You can really easily pull archives, nntp clients tend to handle threading well, etc.
  - thristian 12y ago
    Relevant to this subthread, Gmane's maintainer is also the maintainer of Gnus, so the Gmane web UI is (I'm told) surprisingly familiar for Gnus users.
- pjmlp 12y ago
  D development forums are NNTP, although there is a forum as well. I really prefer the keyboard navigation and all the niceties offered by Thunderbird than the web groups interface, each with its own set of allowed actions, mostly without keyboard navigation.
- pyviennacl 12y ago
  Sure: I use NNTP for my RSS/Atom feeds and my mailing lists, using the excellent gateways at http://gmane.org/ http://gmane.org/ and http://gwene.org/ http://gwene.org/
- zafiro17 12y ago

onedognight 12y ago

> Emacs has a web browser? At one point there were only two web browsers in the world, one was Mosaic (Mozilla is short for Mosaic Killer) and one was W3 (the emacs web browser).

gsnedders 12y ago
Um, what about WorldWideWeb, the original NeXTSTEP browser/editor (by TimBL) which predates both of them?
hackuser 12y ago
I don't think Mosaic was the original browser and I believe others predated Emacs, such as Lynx. Here's Wikipedia's version of events, for what it's worth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_web_browser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_web_browser

troels 12y ago

And a mail client. It's pretty much an operating system.

agumonkey 12y ago
Someone please try the emacs as init with this release.
- broodbucket 12y ago
  Someone's already tried this. http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html?repost http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux....
  - agumonkey 12y ago
    I know, this dates back from emacs 21.3. I wanted to know if someone had the time and skills to replicate the experiment with 24.4
  - flyrain 12y ago
    It's very interesting. It seems a neat solution. Anyone go further? Really work on it?
- agumonkey 12y ago
  I tried to compile emacs statically but under archlinux I need to build ncurses (and probably others) statically too. Which is too much of a black art to me. Gonna try on debian since I believe they include static binairies in packages.