Agreed. Yet, the parent is talking about "programming", that is still the most important part (although still a part) of a Software Engineering project. Softw

Agreed. Yet, the parent is talking about "programming", that is still the most important part (although still a part) of a Software Engineering project. Software Engineering is a recognized discipline, and although I do work in an EE environment, I believe most software projects (which have a contractual obligation with a definite scope and a deadline) use it in a form or the other.