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What does this mean: "All databases are fully managed and tuned by us" So... reactively you get tired of seeing disk io so you make indexes for me, and/or I'm

by VLM 12y ago

What does this mean: "All databases are fully managed and tuned by us" So... reactively you get tired of seeing disk io so you make indexes for me, and/or I'm not allowed to define my own indexes, or are you talking more server level like shared_buffers and work_mem? Or a third level like hardware level where I'm using more CPU so you give some to me and take it away from an instance not using it so much? Just saying I'd see a difference in language like "schema level" vs "server level" vs hardware level. I'm indecisive about this. As a gamble, should I use you guys and pay a little more for someone else to worry about differing levels of management and tuning, vs spin up my own and worry about it myself...

rpedela 12y ago
My assumption would be server-level management similar to RDS and Heroku. Since they run on DigitalOcean, I don't think they have much control over the hardware. Managed at the database/schema/table/etc level does not seem plausible as that would defeat the purpose of a product like this.
pjlegato 12y ago
Hi, Database Labs founder here. That phrase could be a little clearer, I agree. I'm going to update the site soon to incorporate the feedback I've gotten. What we mean is that the Postgres system itself is "server / OS level" management. We set up a reasonable set of defaults for a generic workload per server type, and you get superuser access to the Postgres server to do what you like with in terms of internal structure (schema, indices, users/roles, and so on.) We handle backups, OS upgrades, Postgres upgrades, monitoring, OS-level security, firewalling, intrusion detection, and other sysadmin-like stuff. We are on call 24 hours a day to deal with the issues that will inevitably arise, and we proactively work to minimize the frequency with which they happen. The value proposition lies in how you want to spend your time. Our feedback so far indicates that a significant number of people would rather pay someone to handle all of the sysadmin chores and focus their time on their core app. Thanks for the feedback. I'll be updating the page soon to try to make the value proposition clearer.

by VLM 12y ago

rpedela 12y ago

My assumption would be server-level management similar to RDS and Heroku. Since they run on DigitalOcean, I don't think they have much control over the hardware. Managed at the database/schema/table/etc level does not seem plausible as that would defeat the purpose of a product like this.

pjlegato 12y ago

Hi, Database Labs founder here. That phrase could be a little clearer, I agree. I'm going to update the site soon to incorporate the feedback I've gotten. What we mean is that the Postgres system itself is "server / OS level" management. We set up a reasonable set of defaults for a generic workload per server type, and you get superuser access to the Postgres server to do what you like with in terms of internal structure (schema, indices, users/roles, and so on.) We handle backups, OS upgrades, Postgres upgrades, monitoring, OS-level security, firewalling, intrusion detection, and other sysadmin-like stuff. We are on call 24 hours a day to deal with the issues that will inevitably arise, and we proactively work to minimize the frequency with which they happen. The value proposition lies in how you want to spend your time. Our feedback so far indicates that a significant number of people would rather pay someone to handle all of the sysadmin chores and focus their time on their core app. Thanks for the feedback. I'll be updating the page soon to try to make the value proposition clearer.