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Are you suggesting that Nobel Prize Winner Paul Krugman is speaking out against Amazon because Hachette have drafted him for some sort of PR campaign?

_almosnow 12y ago
Yes he is, and it looks like that to me as well. What's the deal with Paul Krugman being a Nobel Prize winner? [1] [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment
- leoc 12y ago
  Tyrannosaurs may have been tongue-in-cheek there; certainly the capitalised 'Winner' suggests so. (Relevant: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-16/paul-krugman-brand-ambassador http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-16/paul-krugma... .)
- fennecfoxen 12y ago
  As long as we're talking about former Enron adviser Paul Krugman, we can look up a fuller bio. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman
  - huxley 12y ago
    You mean the Paul Krugman who was chief staffer (international economics) on the Council of Economic Advisors under the Reagan Administration and was hand-picked by Martin Feldstein? Krugman has a very full bio so you can find all sorts of things there, he hasn't hesitated to work with anyone willing to listen to his opinions and expertise.
    - fennecfoxen 12y ago
      That's the guy, yep.
- homarp 12y ago
  http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/laureates/2008/ http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/lau... quoting Wikipedia "Krugman was awarded the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (informally the Nobel Prize in Economics), the sole recipient for 2008. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Nobel_Memorial_Pri...
- Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
  It's not intended as an appeal to accomplishment, more as a suggestion that he would have as much to lose in reputation than to gain by getting involved in such a thing if he didn't genuinely believe his position. EDIT: I'd also suggest that as a default with the participants in this particular disagreement, anyone with self interest at heart should probably think about siding with Amazon. Jeff Bezos doesn't lose too many fights.
  - josu 12y ago
    In the academic world Krugman-the-journalist has never had that much reputation. It was Krugman-the-academic the one who won the Nobel Memorial Prize. You can check out some of Krugman-the-journalist's most notorious contradictions here: http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Contradictions http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Contradictions
    - alexyes 12y ago
      People can be extremely wrong even if they were extremely right in the past. And the opposite
    - Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
      Clearly we don't expect his journalism to have the same level of rigour as his academic work. That's a very different thing to any suggestion he might be part of an orchestrated PR move by Hachette which was the original implication.
      - josu 12y ago
        You are completely right, sorry about that.
gadders 12y ago
I am suggesting that Paul Krugman is speaking as a New York Times Op Ed writer whose duty is to sell newspapers, rather than as an academic.
- deleted 12y ago
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- icelancer 12y ago
  This has been true for years.
skj 12y ago
Paul Krugman did not win the Nobel prize [1]. [1] http://www.alternet.org/economy/there-no-nobel-prize-economics http://www.alternet.org/economy/there-no-nobel-prize-economi...
- huxley 12y ago
  The Nobel Foundation begs to differ. It's not one of the original Nobel Prizes but it is considered by the foundation to be on the same standing as the other prizes. Winners are selected by a committee appointed by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences but voted on by the Academy as a whole. http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/ http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/ "In 1968, Sveriges Riksbank (Sweden's central bank) established the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, founder of the Nobel Prize. The Prize is based on a donation received by the Nobel Foundation in 1968 from Sveriges Riksbank on the occasion of the Bank's 300th anniversary. The first Prize in Economic Sciences was awarded to Ragnar Frisch and Jan Tinbergen in 1969. The Prize in Economic Sciences is awarded by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, Sweden, according to the same principles as for the Nobel Prizes that have been awarded since 1901."
mikeash 12y ago
Why is that so outrageous? Double Nobel winner Linus Pauling became a complete nutcase in later life, for example, strenuously advocating baseless and potentially destructive alternative medicine. Winning a Nobel Prize doesn't make a person immune to misbehavior.
- Crito 12y ago
  So many Nobel winners have said or endorsed crazy shit, that some people have even created a name specifically for the phenomenon: "The Nobel Disease": http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease

_almosnow 12y ago

Yes he is, and it looks like that to me as well. What's the deal with Paul Krugman being a Nobel Prize winner? [1] [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment

leoc 12y ago
Tyrannosaurs may have been tongue-in-cheek there; certainly the capitalised 'Winner' suggests so. (Relevant: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-16/paul-krugman-brand-ambassador http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-16/paul-krugma... .)
fennecfoxen 12y ago
As long as we're talking about former Enron adviser Paul Krugman, we can look up a fuller bio. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman
- huxley 12y ago
  You mean the Paul Krugman who was chief staffer (international economics) on the Council of Economic Advisors under the Reagan Administration and was hand-picked by Martin Feldstein? Krugman has a very full bio so you can find all sorts of things there, he hasn't hesitated to work with anyone willing to listen to his opinions and expertise.
  - fennecfoxen 12y ago
    That's the guy, yep.
homarp 12y ago
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/laureates/2008/ http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/lau... quoting Wikipedia "Krugman was awarded the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences (informally the Nobel Prize in Economics), the sole recipient for 2008. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Nobel_Memorial_Prize_in_Economic_Sciences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Nobel_Memorial_Pri...
Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
It's not intended as an appeal to accomplishment, more as a suggestion that he would have as much to lose in reputation than to gain by getting involved in such a thing if he didn't genuinely believe his position. EDIT: I'd also suggest that as a default with the participants in this particular disagreement, anyone with self interest at heart should probably think about siding with Amazon. Jeff Bezos doesn't lose too many fights.
- josu 12y ago
  In the academic world Krugman-the-journalist has never had that much reputation. It was Krugman-the-academic the one who won the Nobel Memorial Prize. You can check out some of Krugman-the-journalist's most notorious contradictions here: http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Contradictions http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman#Contradictions
  - alexyes 12y ago
    People can be extremely wrong even if they were extremely right in the past. And the opposite
  - Tyrannosaurs 12y ago
    Clearly we don't expect his journalism to have the same level of rigour as his academic work. That's a very different thing to any suggestion he might be part of an orchestrated PR move by Hachette which was the original implication.
    - josu 12y ago
      You are completely right, sorry about that.

gadders 12y ago

I am suggesting that Paul Krugman is speaking as a New York Times Op Ed writer whose duty is to sell newspapers, rather than as an academic.

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icelancer 12y ago
This has been true for years.

skj 12y ago

Paul Krugman did not win the Nobel prize [1]. [1] http://www.alternet.org/economy/there-no-nobel-prize-economics http://www.alternet.org/economy/there-no-nobel-prize-economi...

huxley 12y ago
The Nobel Foundation begs to differ. It's not one of the original Nobel Prizes but it is considered by the foundation to be on the same standing as the other prizes. Winners are selected by a committee appointed by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences but voted on by the Academy as a whole. http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/ http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economic-sciences/ "In 1968, Sveriges Riksbank (Sweden's central bank) established the Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, founder of the Nobel Prize. The Prize is based on a donation received by the Nobel Foundation in 1968 from Sveriges Riksbank on the occasion of the Bank's 300th anniversary. The first Prize in Economic Sciences was awarded to Ragnar Frisch and Jan Tinbergen in 1969. The Prize in Economic Sciences is awarded by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Stockholm, Sweden, according to the same principles as for the Nobel Prizes that have been awarded since 1901."

mikeash 12y ago

Why is that so outrageous? Double Nobel winner Linus Pauling became a complete nutcase in later life, for example, strenuously advocating baseless and potentially destructive alternative medicine. Winning a Nobel Prize doesn't make a person immune to misbehavior.

Crito 12y ago
So many Nobel winners have said or endorsed crazy shit, that some people have even created a name specifically for the phenomenon: "The Nobel Disease": http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nobel_disease