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no - I'm suggesting both situations are equally unpleasant for users and HN crowd tends to absolve Apple for any 'crimes' they commit - it's just funny (I'm us

no - I'm suggesting both situations are equally unpleasant for users and HN crowd tends to absolve Apple for any 'crimes' they commit - it's just funny (I'm using both Ubuntu and Mac on a regular basis)

sbuk 12y ago
I'm not clear why it's unpleasant and the pejorative use of 'crime' is one that puts my back up over this. Spotlight's function is clearly stated and easily disabled. It is simply alarmism and sensationalism. The same can be reasonably said of the Amazon/Ubuntu debacle. TFA doesn't indicate who the 3rd parties are (other than a frankly 'trollish' reference to Microsoft) or what they are transmitting; other than search queries. One rationally presumes that if Spotlight - a search feature that has been present in OS X in one way or another for some time - can search the internet for results, then it follows that these queries need to be sent to. TFA fails to highlight whether or not these searches can be used to identify the individual user. A case of looking for a scandal where there is none.
- tkubacki 12y ago
  being honest - I don't care that much. Really interesting (and somehow funny) are all those Apple apologists trying to rationalize/justify everything Apple does.
  - sbuk 12y ago
    There you go again! "Apple apologists". Apologising for what?
    - tkubacki 12y ago
      apologists - a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial. Defending Apple eg. very first comment below my comment claims Apple is not showing adds whereas someone showed this: http://i.imgur.com/1hdtCjB.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/1hdtCjB.png?1
      - sbuk 12y ago
        That's not a 3rd party for goodness sake! It's iTunes. It says it clearly! My comment asked you if "suggesting that Apple is sending this data to advertisers". iTunes is categorically not a 3rd party. Enough of these fallacies. No-one is apologising for Apple's actions as there nothing to apologise for. You are looking for something that isn't there and it was clear from the onset that this was the case.
        tkubacki 12y ago
        you still seem not getting this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics for me - if it wants to convince me to buy something it's an advertisement - no matter it's third party or not. But as I said before I don't care - my only point is Apple...(trying not to be negative) fanboism level here (HN coments) is exceptional and that's funny :)
        sbuk 12y ago
        There you go; "fanboism". Took you long enough. You have consistently squirmed around this, but there it is. Oh, I get it. I get that you clearly have an agenda. Edit: Your whole argument revolves around Apple doing something behind our backs; which the blatantly haven't. The warning is there, front and centre. That's not an apology, that's a fact.
        tkubacki 12y ago
        Well...no. Apple is adding online sources to UI more or less same way as Ubuntu (I don't have opinion on whether it's good or not - I find it useless for me on both OSes). My point is: there is an inequality of treating Ubuntu and Apple in HN comments in Apple's favour - that's all.
        sbuk 12y ago
        Which is kind of a pointless comment to make, isn't it.

sbuk 12y ago

I'm not clear why it's unpleasant and the pejorative use of 'crime' is one that puts my back up over this. Spotlight's function is clearly stated and easily disabled. It is simply alarmism and sensationalism. The same can be reasonably said of the Amazon/Ubuntu debacle. TFA doesn't indicate who the 3rd parties are (other than a frankly 'trollish' reference to Microsoft) or what they are transmitting; other than search queries. One rationally presumes that if Spotlight - a search feature that has been present in OS X in one way or another for some time - can search the internet for results, then it follows that these queries need to be sent to. TFA fails to highlight whether or not these searches can be used to identify the individual user. A case of looking for a scandal where there is none.

tkubacki 12y ago
being honest - I don't care that much. Really interesting (and somehow funny) are all those Apple apologists trying to rationalize/justify everything Apple does.
- sbuk 12y ago
  There you go again! "Apple apologists". Apologising for what?
  - tkubacki 12y ago
    apologists - a person who offers an argument in defense of something controversial. Defending Apple eg. very first comment below my comment claims Apple is not showing adds whereas someone showed this: http://i.imgur.com/1hdtCjB.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/1hdtCjB.png?1
    - sbuk 12y ago
      That's not a 3rd party for goodness sake! It's iTunes. It says it clearly! My comment asked you if "suggesting that Apple is sending this data to advertisers". iTunes is categorically not a 3rd party. Enough of these fallacies. No-one is apologising for Apple's actions as there nothing to apologise for. You are looking for something that isn't there and it was clear from the onset that this was the case.
      - tkubacki 12y ago
        you still seem not getting this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apologetics for me - if it wants to convince me to buy something it's an advertisement - no matter it's third party or not. But as I said before I don't care - my only point is Apple...(trying not to be negative) fanboism level here (HN coments) is exceptional and that's funny :)
        sbuk 12y ago
        There you go; "fanboism". Took you long enough. You have consistently squirmed around this, but there it is. Oh, I get it. I get that you clearly have an agenda. Edit: Your whole argument revolves around Apple doing something behind our backs; which the blatantly haven't. The warning is there, front and centre. That's not an apology, that's a fact.
        tkubacki 12y ago
        Well...no. Apple is adding online sources to UI more or less same way as Ubuntu (I don't have opinion on whether it's good or not - I find it useless for me on both OSes). My point is: there is an inequality of treating Ubuntu and Apple in HN comments in Apple's favour - that's all.
        sbuk 12y ago
        Which is kind of a pointless comment to make, isn't it.