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"This rage-ful, over-entitled, Internet-connected fraternity of kids share one core skill: playing games. Little wonder, then, they have proved so expert at dri

"This rage-ful, over-entitled, Internet-connected fraternity of kids share one core skill: playing games. Little wonder, then, they have proved so expert at driving a toxic hellbrew of misogyny into the mainstream media — and all over social media — by gaming popular online channels using a sophisticated playbook of disruption." So many lies and misrepresentations in such a short space. GamerGate has nothing to do with misogyny, it's about ethics in game journalism. There has been almost NO coverage of the other side by the mainstream media so if there's any toxic hellbrew in there, it's been carried by the anti-GG people. GamerGate stands for dialogue, inclusivity, ethics and transparency because of the reprehensible behaviour of some game journalists and individuals connected with them. There is absolutely no evidence connecting the movement with death threats made and even if there was, you cannot judge the core by the fringe. If that were true then we could judge the entire anti-GG side by Zoe Quinn who is a manipulative, hypocritical sociopath who has done a great deal of harm to women in gaming. And as for gaming online channels? It works both ways.

smacktoward 12y ago
> GamerGate has nothing to do with misogyny, it's about ethics in game journalism Which is why the targets are overwhelmingly women, I'm sure. > There has been almost NO coverage of the other side by the mainstream media People tend not to be interested overmuch in hearing what the side brandishing the rape and death threats thinks. > GamerGate stands for dialogue, inclusivity, ethics and transparency I have never seen the causes of "inclusivity" or "dialogue" furthered by threats of physical violence. > because of the reprehensible behaviour of some game journalists and individuals connected with them [citation needed] > There is absolutely no evidence connecting the movement with death threats made Well, except for how the death threats keep landing on people who are at the top of GG's list of targets. What an incredible coincidence. > Zoe Quinn who is a manipulative, hypocritical sociopath Gosh, I cannot possibly understand how anyone could think GG is misogynistic or disrespectful, when you are always so careful to use measured, even-handed language.
- ASneakyFox 12y ago
  The crazy death threat people are 4channers. They're not actual people concerned about video game journalism. The real problem is people don't realize that Anyone can call themself a gamer gate activist, or a feminist, or anonymouse, or al quada.. They don't need to have any kind of affiliation or share any views. and this happens online more than in person due to only having a virtual presence.
  - ijk 12y ago
    One might suggest that a movement that refuses to police itself is deliberately courting such plausible deniability. [1] Or one might mention all of the people with documented links to both harassment and the hashtag.[2] > They're not actual people concerned about video game journalism. I agree with you! Pity that so many of them seem to keep saying that they are concerned with journalism, instead of just admitting what they are doing. [1] https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-and-harassment https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-and-harassment [2] https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-is-a-misogy https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-is-a-misogy
    - Goladus 12y ago
      > One might suggest that a movement that refuses to police itself is deliberately courting such plausible deniability. Perhaps you didn't hear about the time when someone created a new board on 8chan specifically to harass Brianna Wu, and the Leaders of Gamergate from the /gg/ board went and flooded the new board with nonsense until mods woke up and took care of the problem. Or when they tracked twitter attacks on Anita Sarkeesian to a journalist in Brazil... Seriously, the standards you are trying to hold GamerGate to are completely and utterly ridiculous.
- camperman 12y ago
  > Gosh, I cannot possibly understand how anyone could think GG is misogynistic or disrespectful, when you are always so careful to use measured, even-handed language. Valid criticism is not misogyny or even disrespect. I stated facts: 1. Zoe Quinn is manipulative and abusive. Source? Her own words on the Zoe post. Good analysis here: http://theflounce.com/harassment-abuse-apologism-sanitizing-abuse-social-justice-spheres/ http://theflounce.com/harassment-abuse-apologism-sanitizing-... 2. Zoe Quinn is hypocritical. Source? Her own words on the Zoe post. She says cheating is rape and then cheats. That's called hypocrisy. 3. Zoe Quinn is a sociopath. Boatloads of evidence. Doxxing, false flag attacks against WizardChan, or how about this Facebook post by her photographer: https://www.facebook.com/mallorie.nasrallah/posts/10152274324055882:0 https://www.facebook.com/mallorie.nasrallah/posts/1015227432...

smacktoward 12y ago

> GamerGate has nothing to do with misogyny, it's about ethics in game journalism Which is why the targets are overwhelmingly women, I'm sure. > There has been almost NO coverage of the other side by the mainstream media People tend not to be interested overmuch in hearing what the side brandishing the rape and death threats thinks. > GamerGate stands for dialogue, inclusivity, ethics and transparency I have never seen the causes of "inclusivity" or "dialogue" furthered by threats of physical violence. > because of the reprehensible behaviour of some game journalists and individuals connected with them [citation needed] > There is absolutely no evidence connecting the movement with death threats made Well, except for how the death threats keep landing on people who are at the top of GG's list of targets. What an incredible coincidence. > Zoe Quinn who is a manipulative, hypocritical sociopath Gosh, I cannot possibly understand how anyone could think GG is misogynistic or disrespectful, when you are always so careful to use measured, even-handed language.

ASneakyFox 12y ago
The crazy death threat people are 4channers. They're not actual people concerned about video game journalism. The real problem is people don't realize that Anyone can call themself a gamer gate activist, or a feminist, or anonymouse, or al quada.. They don't need to have any kind of affiliation or share any views. and this happens online more than in person due to only having a virtual presence.
- ijk 12y ago
  One might suggest that a movement that refuses to police itself is deliberately courting such plausible deniability. [1] Or one might mention all of the people with documented links to both harassment and the hashtag.[2] > They're not actual people concerned about video game journalism. I agree with you! Pity that so many of them seem to keep saying that they are concerned with journalism, instead of just admitting what they are doing. [1] https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-and-harassment https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-and-harassment [2] https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-is-a-misogy https://storify.com/a_man_in_black/gamergate-is-a-misogy
  - Goladus 12y ago
    > One might suggest that a movement that refuses to police itself is deliberately courting such plausible deniability. Perhaps you didn't hear about the time when someone created a new board on 8chan specifically to harass Brianna Wu, and the Leaders of Gamergate from the /gg/ board went and flooded the new board with nonsense until mods woke up and took care of the problem. Or when they tracked twitter attacks on Anita Sarkeesian to a journalist in Brazil... Seriously, the standards you are trying to hold GamerGate to are completely and utterly ridiculous.
camperman 12y ago
> Gosh, I cannot possibly understand how anyone could think GG is misogynistic or disrespectful, when you are always so careful to use measured, even-handed language. Valid criticism is not misogyny or even disrespect. I stated facts: 1. Zoe Quinn is manipulative and abusive. Source? Her own words on the Zoe post. Good analysis here: http://theflounce.com/harassment-abuse-apologism-sanitizing-abuse-social-justice-spheres/ http://theflounce.com/harassment-abuse-apologism-sanitizing-... 2. Zoe Quinn is hypocritical. Source? Her own words on the Zoe post. She says cheating is rape and then cheats. That's called hypocrisy. 3. Zoe Quinn is a sociopath. Boatloads of evidence. Doxxing, false flag attacks against WizardChan, or how about this Facebook post by her photographer: https://www.facebook.com/mallorie.nasrallah/posts/10152274324055882:0 https://www.facebook.com/mallorie.nasrallah/posts/1015227432...