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Wonder how many entrepreneurs are looking at this and seeing the awesome market validation of the idea. I know there's some debate around whether this is techni

Wonder how many entrepreneurs are looking at this and seeing the awesome market validation of the idea. I know there's some debate around whether this is technically possible or not, but hopefully some smart hacker somewhere can figure those issues out and make a success with this.

rdl 12y ago
Grugq has been working on this since -- 2012. He's had working code; it was just a problem of getting COTS hardware which would support it. Making custom hardware is a bad idea for this for a variety of reasons. Grugq, Marc Rogers, and I have shown a (much more functional, actually secure) version of this, called PORTAL, at a couple conferences this summer, and will have a retail version on Amazon by December -- none of this presale BS. Free downloads of the firmware for some of the most commonly available routers out there, and sold at cost ($20-25).
- walterbell 12y ago
  Sounds promising. Please create a website or other citable URL that others can use to promote it in advance of December.
  - rcsorensen 12y ago
    See the following: https://github.com/grugq/PORTALofPi https://github.com/grugq/PORTALofPi https://www.portalmasq.com/portal-defcon.pdf https://www.portalmasq.com/portal-defcon.pdf
enraged_camel 12y ago
>>but hopefully some smart hacker somewhere can figure those issues out and make a success with this. Isn't security so complex that it's unrealistic to expect "some smart hacker" to figure out the issues? My understanding, at least from reading tptacek's posts here, is that you need a very qualified team of experts to tackle the difficult problems in the security field, and then have their research findings and inventions validated and vetted by the security community as a whole.
ASneakyFox 12y ago
The issue isn't that tor in a box isn't possible. Its that it wouldn't work to protect your privacy.

rdl 12y ago

Grugq has been working on this since -- 2012. He's had working code; it was just a problem of getting COTS hardware which would support it. Making custom hardware is a bad idea for this for a variety of reasons. Grugq, Marc Rogers, and I have shown a (much more functional, actually secure) version of this, called PORTAL, at a couple conferences this summer, and will have a retail version on Amazon by December -- none of this presale BS. Free downloads of the firmware for some of the most commonly available routers out there, and sold at cost ($20-25).

walterbell 12y ago
Sounds promising. Please create a website or other citable URL that others can use to promote it in advance of December.
- rcsorensen 12y ago
  See the following: https://github.com/grugq/PORTALofPi https://github.com/grugq/PORTALofPi https://www.portalmasq.com/portal-defcon.pdf https://www.portalmasq.com/portal-defcon.pdf

enraged_camel 12y ago

>>but hopefully some smart hacker somewhere can figure those issues out and make a success with this. Isn't security so complex that it's unrealistic to expect "some smart hacker" to figure out the issues? My understanding, at least from reading tptacek's posts here, is that you need a very qualified team of experts to tackle the difficult problems in the security field, and then have their research findings and inventions validated and vetted by the security community as a whole.

ASneakyFox 12y ago

The issue isn't that tor in a box isn't possible. Its that it wouldn't work to protect your privacy.