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There are ethical questions about the person ripping off multiple different products and not crediting them. He is taking a bunch of things and putting them in
by sigkill 12y ago
There are ethical questions about the person ripping off multiple different products and not crediting them. He is taking a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required. Now, that's a moral question and I'll let you all decide if it's right or wrong.
Coming to the technical aspects of the box, the product is fine in the sense that it does exactly what it says technically - routing your connection via Tor. Using verified credentials over Tor is a bad idea for that specific identity. If you're the kind of person who's going to buy this, I can take a guess that a large percent of the population wouldn't really know how it works and will think "I'm anonymous and private now, thanks to this little box" and use the Internet exactly as they were using it before - bad idea. The concept is flawed simply because a layman will use email and facebook over Tor and then bam! you can identify him instantly.
TL;DR - Operation successful, patient is dead.
- peteretep 12y ago> He is taking a bunch of things and putting them in a > nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration > required This is a stronger value proposition than most social media startups.
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- peteretep 12y ago> The concept is flawed simply because a layman will use > email and facebook over Tor and then bam! you can > identify him instantly. This doesn't match my understanding of how Tor works, and I'm happy to be wrong on this. Do you mean that their actions when logged-in/authorized will be identifiable as them, or if while using a Tor service, if you make any identifiable internet calls, the whole of the rest of your session is identifiable?
- girvo 12y agoBecause of the way Facebook and other sites can track your movements across websites (due to Like button embedding and other third party scripts that we all use on our sites), they'll be able to identify you across your session, defeating the purpose of Tor. At least thats how I've understood it.
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- Balgair 12y agoTrue, most people, ourselves included since we are posting here, cannot maintain true anonymity online. It's not that they do not want to, it's that they do not know how nor do they realize that Fb is not anonymous. Still, it is an educating experience and the success of the kickstart is a great indicator of a itch the wants to be scratched. I think the way to view this is that people want to have privacy but are unaware of how to go about it or what it takes. We should view this as an opportunity to educate people about TOR and it's benefits and costs to each of us personally and as a society. Having people log into TOR to use Fb is dumb, yes, but at least they are using TOR at all!
- fleitz 12y ago> He is taking a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required. In the product world this is generally known as every product ever. iPod : a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required Chocolate Bar: a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required Tide: a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required Bulk bins at a supermarket: a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required hackernews: a bunch of things and putting them in a nice shiny box with almost zero end user configuration required