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> Is longevity lower for the high-IQ? No, it is not. It is higher. That's my whole point. I'm not sure you're following. It's mostly about health down to the c

> Is longevity lower for the high-IQ? No, it is not. It is higher. That's my whole point. I'm not sure you're following. It's mostly about health down to the cellular level. It's about a high performance immune system during gestation and development. It's about the absence of mutational load, not the existence of IQ boosting genes. Good luck if you think it's a simple matter of inserting genes a, b, and c. It's about how millions of pieces fit together exactly. You seem to be saying we're going to be able to take a top notch, high end consumer car (person with IQ 120) and add a turbocharger, remove some body weight, and tighten up the tolerances and compression ratio to get more zoom. I'm saying that's just not going to work. The absolute best case will be you manage to make an F100 racer, which falls apart after 100 miles without extreme maintenance. But more likely the thing won't even run properly. You have no idea and I have no idea how genetic engineering of mammals will play out. I am convinced that you are operating from flawed premises of the organism as a machine. Your focus on simple correlations belies the misunderstanding. In the organism we are talking about a chaotic, extremely complex system like the weather or an economy that will badly defy engineering attempts. Go read jurassic park, lol. Time will tell.

gwern 12y ago
> It's mostly about health down to the cellular level. It's about a high performance immune system during gestation and development. It's about the absence of mutational load, not the existence of IQ boosting genes. Good luck if you think it's a simple matter of inserting genes a, b, and c. It's about how millions of pieces fit together exactly. If it's about 'mutational load' (you do understand the difference between that term as usually used and the SNP strategy Hsu proposes, right?), then flipping them should work just fine: you're removing damage and friction. > You seem to be saying we're going to be able to take a top notch, high end consumer car (person with IQ 120) and add a turbocharger, remove some body weight, and tighten up the tolerances and compression ratio to get more zoom. No, I am not making a simplistic analogy to a machine. > But more likely the thing won't even run properly. Which is why high-IQ people drop like flies after 100 miles, right... > In the organism we are talking about a chaotic, extremely complex system like the weather or an economy that will badly defy engineering attempts. Yes, it's all so terribly terribly complex, whooo knooowwwsss what will happen. > Go read jurassic park, lol. Newsflash: _Jurassic Park_ was fiction. That is: made up, not real.

gwern 12y ago

> It's mostly about health down to the cellular level. It's about a high performance immune system during gestation and development. It's about the absence of mutational load, not the existence of IQ boosting genes. Good luck if you think it's a simple matter of inserting genes a, b, and c. It's about how millions of pieces fit together exactly. If it's about 'mutational load' (you do understand the difference between that term as usually used and the SNP strategy Hsu proposes, right?), then flipping them should work just fine: you're removing damage and friction. > You seem to be saying we're going to be able to take a top notch, high end consumer car (person with IQ 120) and add a turbocharger, remove some body weight, and tighten up the tolerances and compression ratio to get more zoom. No, I am not making a simplistic analogy to a machine. > But more likely the thing won't even run properly. Which is why high-IQ people drop like flies after 100 miles, right... > In the organism we are talking about a chaotic, extremely complex system like the weather or an economy that will badly defy engineering attempts. Yes, it's all so terribly terribly complex, whooo knooowwwsss what will happen. > Go read jurassic park, lol. Newsflash: _Jurassic Park_ was fiction. That is: made up, not real.