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Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

by pbreit 12y ago

gcao 12y ago
Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.
- Heliosmaster 12y ago
  You're not alone in this exact behavior.
- segmondy 12y ago
  Don't blame the app, blame the OS, the OS is suppose to insulate the app, it's not MSDOS, unless of course it runs as root then all bets are off.
  - epochwolf 12y ago
    VMWare installs kernel extentions. I'm pretty sure you can blame an app that deliberately messes with the OS internals.
- rconti 12y ago
  I went through a few of these. At least once the GPU burned up when it failed to go to sleep after disconnecting from my thunderbolt display and putting in my laptop bag for 18h. I think I went through two MBPr 15" machines before I got one that didn't have the problem. I still think it's possible some software I had was triggering it initially, but once it happened a few times, even a clean install with nothing on it could trigger it. Was very frustrating.
- r00fus 12y ago
  VMWare 6 seems to be the cause of some of mine. I resolved it by making sure it's suspended prior to system sleep. I wonder if the most recent VMWare version would help.
  - geekam 12y ago
    It helped a little but still crashes for me. I have the same issues with VMWare latest version.
    - r00fus 12y ago
      Does suspending the VM help you?
      - mattgreenrocks 12y ago
        I have to quit VMWare Fusion or run the risk of spontaneous reboots while it's asleep.
      - geekam 12y ago
        It does. No crashes if VM is not running.
      - r00fus 12y ago
        Sorry to reply to my own message, but I just found this [1] where the recommendation is: "I managed to fix this by going to the Virtual Machine Settings, clicking Advanced, and then checking the "Pass power status to VM" checkbox." Haven't tested extensively, but I haven't had a crash in the past day. [1] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919 https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919
        geekam 12y ago
        Thanks! I will try this and let you know.
  - mgkimsal 12y ago
    Interesting you got yours to work (VMWare 6) - mine's never worked since I upgraded to 6. $50 upgrade down the drain, no workable support, no one can reproduce it or track down an issue from my logs. :(
- zippergz 12y ago
  I have that on one of my machines but not the other. This is the only situation I remember either of them crashing in, though.
- jevgeni 12y ago
  I had the exact same problem on an iMac. I've noticed, that it happened, when I've left my Wacom Cintiq "on" overnight, while designating it as a second monitor.
- masklinn 12y ago
  I've had this problem with Mavericks on a 2010 MBP. I "fixed" it by switching the hibernation mode sleep (hibernatemode 0), suspend-to-disk and suspend-to-ram would kernel panic every time.
  - pfranz 12y ago
    I already mentioned it elsewhere, but I wonder if both parent and gp have a case of bad RAM.
xentronium 12y ago
Varies heavily on generation. Some are inherently faulty. E.g. lots of late 2008 mbp had got bad gpus, I had motherboard replaced for mine for free.
EpicEng 12y ago
Lucky you. I've owned two, they both crashed, far more often than a top-tier OS should. It usually happened when playing video, and it was usually the GPU. That said, my Air has not crashed once since I purchased it last December.
wil421 12y ago
I have an early 2011 15" MBP with an SSD and a regular hard drive in the optical bay with maxed out RAM. I have had maybe one crash in the past year. The only issue I have is with the trackpad going out from time to time but a quick reboot fixes the problem.
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aragot 12y ago
> since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes. Stop presuming, get facts. OSX Mavericks is known for its crashing problems. Example: http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-more-frequently-for-some-including-me/ http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-...

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

by pbreit 12y ago

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

gcao 12y ago

Mine crashes a lot. Usually after I send it to sleep when I go home. Next time when I wake it up, it starts up from crashed state. It might have something to do with some app I installed but I didn't spend time to figure that out yet.

Heliosmaster 12y ago
You're not alone in this exact behavior.
segmondy 12y ago
Don't blame the app, blame the OS, the OS is suppose to insulate the app, it's not MSDOS, unless of course it runs as root then all bets are off.
- epochwolf 12y ago
  VMWare installs kernel extentions. I'm pretty sure you can blame an app that deliberately messes with the OS internals.
rconti 12y ago
I went through a few of these. At least once the GPU burned up when it failed to go to sleep after disconnecting from my thunderbolt display and putting in my laptop bag for 18h. I think I went through two MBPr 15" machines before I got one that didn't have the problem. I still think it's possible some software I had was triggering it initially, but once it happened a few times, even a clean install with nothing on it could trigger it. Was very frustrating.
r00fus 12y ago
VMWare 6 seems to be the cause of some of mine. I resolved it by making sure it's suspended prior to system sleep. I wonder if the most recent VMWare version would help.
- geekam 12y ago
  It helped a little but still crashes for me. I have the same issues with VMWare latest version.
  - r00fus 12y ago
    Does suspending the VM help you?
    - mattgreenrocks 12y ago
      I have to quit VMWare Fusion or run the risk of spontaneous reboots while it's asleep.
    - geekam 12y ago
      It does. No crashes if VM is not running.
    - r00fus 12y ago
      Sorry to reply to my own message, but I just found this [1] where the recommendation is: "I managed to fix this by going to the Virtual Machine Settings, clicking Advanced, and then checking the "Pass power status to VM" checkbox." Haven't tested extensively, but I haven't had a crash in the past day. [1] https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919 https://communities.vmware.com/thread/467919
      - geekam 12y ago
        Thanks! I will try this and let you know.
- mgkimsal 12y ago
  Interesting you got yours to work (VMWare 6) - mine's never worked since I upgraded to 6. $50 upgrade down the drain, no workable support, no one can reproduce it or track down an issue from my logs. :(
zippergz 12y ago
I have that on one of my machines but not the other. This is the only situation I remember either of them crashing in, though.
jevgeni 12y ago
I had the exact same problem on an iMac. I've noticed, that it happened, when I've left my Wacom Cintiq "on" overnight, while designating it as a second monitor.
masklinn 12y ago
I've had this problem with Mavericks on a 2010 MBP. I "fixed" it by switching the hibernation mode sleep (hibernatemode 0), suspend-to-disk and suspend-to-ram would kernel panic every time.
- pfranz 12y ago
  I already mentioned it elsewhere, but I wonder if both parent and gp have a case of bad RAM.

xentronium 12y ago

Varies heavily on generation. Some are inherently faulty. E.g. lots of late 2008 mbp had got bad gpus, I had motherboard replaced for mine for free.

EpicEng 12y ago

Lucky you. I've owned two, they both crashed, far more often than a top-tier OS should. It usually happened when playing video, and it was usually the GPU. That said, my Air has not crashed once since I purchased it last December.

wil421 12y ago

I have an early 2011 15" MBP with an SSD and a regular hard drive in the optical bay with maxed out RAM. I have had maybe one crash in the past year. The only issue I have is with the trackpad going out from time to time but a quick reboot fixes the problem.

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aragot 12y ago

> since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes. Stop presuming, get facts. OSX Mavericks is known for its crashing problems. Example: http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-crashes-far-more-frequently-for-some-including-me/ http://venturebeat.com/2013/10/25/apples-new-os-x-mavericks-...