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Does anyone know if there is a technical reason they make this Safari-only?

by clamprecht 12y ago

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ynniv 12y ago
The other platforms want people to use a more complicated streaming format?
- ynniv 12y ago
  I guess the sarcasm isn't appreciated, but HLS is a simple enough protocol that an intern could implement it. It trades latency for cacheability, which greatly reduces broadcasting costs. The only obvious reasons to not support it are political.
eknkc 12y ago
Uses HLS
ne0phyte 12y ago
They want you to buy a current gen device so you can watch what you can buy in a couple of weeks.
squigs25 12y ago
This creates a social class system surrounding Apple products - only those who are privileged enough to be on the Apple ecosystem are allowed to watch Apple events. While they could definitely make all of their events streamable on a wide variety of devices, this tactic makes everyone not in the ecosystem feel as though they've been let down by the technology which they own. It also ensures that the audience is more Apple-centric, and the first to hear the conference lectures will already be biased in favor of Apple given that they are already Apple users.
- brymaster 12y ago
  Your reply wasn't a technical one regarding the question, but I think you've been unfairly downvoted as there is actually truth in what you're saying. These are exactly the types of conversations that marketing teams at Apple would have about creating the perception around their brand. Note: before a fervent product enthusiast thinks about hitting that downvote button, I've typed this comment from my very own MBP.
  - squigs25 12y ago
    Thanks - I appreciate that you're sticking up for healthy debates. While I understand that my view might not be universal, I think all too often the average HN'er is feeling that it is ok to downvote someone they disagree with. It's our diversity of opinions that contributes to the growth of our community.
- squigs25 12y ago
  By the way, I do 100% love Apple products - all my electronics are Apple except my work computer. But there is a definitely a good reason behind why they don't let non-Apple users watch the keynote.
jmreid 12y ago
Uses HTTP adaptive streaming that's built into Quicktime and iOS natively. It's the same technology that MLB/NFL/NHL use to do live-streaming of games to their apps on iOS. There is a way to get VLC to open the stream, but I haven't had to do it personally.
GHFigs 12y ago
Apple's new campus is powered by the outrage and impatience of people that won't download VLC or ffplay to watch their two-hour commercials before they're available on YouTube.

Does anyone know if there is a technical reason they make this Safari-only?

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ynniv 12y ago

The other platforms want people to use a more complicated streaming format?

ynniv 12y ago
I guess the sarcasm isn't appreciated, but HLS is a simple enough protocol that an intern could implement it. It trades latency for cacheability, which greatly reduces broadcasting costs. The only obvious reasons to not support it are political.

eknkc 12y ago

Uses HLS

ne0phyte 12y ago

They want you to buy a current gen device so you can watch what you can buy in a couple of weeks.

squigs25 12y ago

This creates a social class system surrounding Apple products - only those who are privileged enough to be on the Apple ecosystem are allowed to watch Apple events. While they could definitely make all of their events streamable on a wide variety of devices, this tactic makes everyone not in the ecosystem feel as though they've been let down by the technology which they own. It also ensures that the audience is more Apple-centric, and the first to hear the conference lectures will already be biased in favor of Apple given that they are already Apple users.

brymaster 12y ago
Your reply wasn't a technical one regarding the question, but I think you've been unfairly downvoted as there is actually truth in what you're saying. These are exactly the types of conversations that marketing teams at Apple would have about creating the perception around their brand. Note: before a fervent product enthusiast thinks about hitting that downvote button, I've typed this comment from my very own MBP.
- squigs25 12y ago
  Thanks - I appreciate that you're sticking up for healthy debates. While I understand that my view might not be universal, I think all too often the average HN'er is feeling that it is ok to downvote someone they disagree with. It's our diversity of opinions that contributes to the growth of our community.
squigs25 12y ago
By the way, I do 100% love Apple products - all my electronics are Apple except my work computer. But there is a definitely a good reason behind why they don't let non-Apple users watch the keynote.

jmreid 12y ago

Uses HTTP adaptive streaming that's built into Quicktime and iOS natively. It's the same technology that MLB/NFL/NHL use to do live-streaming of games to their apps on iOS. There is a way to get VLC to open the stream, but I haven't had to do it personally.

GHFigs 12y ago

Apple's new campus is powered by the outrage and impatience of people that won't download VLC or ffplay to watch their two-hour commercials before they're available on YouTube.