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Terrific (and probably effective) song. Half way through Dan Bull implied that he took the background score from one of Lily's songs. He did, but he never prop

by gizmo 17y ago

Terrific (and probably effective) song. Half way through Dan Bull implied that he took the background score from one of Lily's songs. He did, but he never properly gave credit at the end of the clip. And that's just not cool. Even if you think that music should be in the public domain (like I believe all university papers should be) you still must never use something without giving credit where it's due. It only took 20 seconds to Google, but still. The original song is "22" from the album "It's Not Me, It's You".

axod 17y ago
It's like 4 chords and a drum beat. Do you really need to give credit for that? (I know legally the answer is likely yes, but I don't think it should be). Imagine if we had to give credit for each 4 lines of code that had already been used by someone else :/ Or a painter who had to give credit for a certain way of drawing a beard.
- brandnewlow 17y ago
  If he used the actual sample from the song then it's more likely: - 4 chords - a drum beat - a $5,000 microphone to record the guitar so it sounds like that - a $3000 keyboard to make the piano sound like that - $10,000 in drum gear to get them to sound that way etc. etc. etc. I symapathize with people who want credit for samples. A lot of work and money goes into making pop music pop the way it does.
  - axod 17y ago
    That's a big 'if'. He said 'cover version' which I take to mean he played and recorded it himself.
  - anigbrowl 17y ago
    I think it was MIDIfied, but more importantly he's also having a dig at the fact that 'her' article on copyright was copypasta from a Techdirt article without attribution to the original author, Michael Masnick. He then goes on to complain that labels assert cover versions (like this very track) infringe, when their poster girl of the moment is plagiarizing writers herself. Not only do I like his argument on copyright, I think it's also best deconstruction of the pop music business I've heard in a long, long time.
  - enneff 17y ago
    "If he used the actual sample from the song then it's more likely" Well, he didn't. I totally disagree with you. The foundations of modern pop music are built on sampling the music of ages past. Much of what we enjoy today literally would not exist without the unfettered use of samples. We can't just say "nope, not any more."
  - blueben 17y ago
    If you're paying $18k for one mic, one keyboard, and one drum set, I have a nice bridge I'd like to show you...
    - brandnewlow 17y ago
      Recording a drum kit in a professional way can involve as many as 8 microphones, each one requiring a preamplifier and effects. Add in the cost of the drums themselves and the hourly rate of a session player. 18k may be an overstatement, but it's a nontrivial cost.

by gizmo 17y ago

axod 17y ago

It's like 4 chords and a drum beat. Do you really need to give credit for that? (I know legally the answer is likely yes, but I don't think it should be). Imagine if we had to give credit for each 4 lines of code that had already been used by someone else :/ Or a painter who had to give credit for a certain way of drawing a beard.

brandnewlow 17y ago
If he used the actual sample from the song then it's more likely: - 4 chords - a drum beat - a $5,000 microphone to record the guitar so it sounds like that - a $3000 keyboard to make the piano sound like that - $10,000 in drum gear to get them to sound that way etc. etc. etc. I symapathize with people who want credit for samples. A lot of work and money goes into making pop music pop the way it does.
- axod 17y ago
  That's a big 'if'. He said 'cover version' which I take to mean he played and recorded it himself.
- anigbrowl 17y ago
  I think it was MIDIfied, but more importantly he's also having a dig at the fact that 'her' article on copyright was copypasta from a Techdirt article without attribution to the original author, Michael Masnick. He then goes on to complain that labels assert cover versions (like this very track) infringe, when their poster girl of the moment is plagiarizing writers herself. Not only do I like his argument on copyright, I think it's also best deconstruction of the pop music business I've heard in a long, long time.
- enneff 17y ago
  "If he used the actual sample from the song then it's more likely" Well, he didn't. I totally disagree with you. The foundations of modern pop music are built on sampling the music of ages past. Much of what we enjoy today literally would not exist without the unfettered use of samples. We can't just say "nope, not any more."
- blueben 17y ago
  If you're paying $18k for one mic, one keyboard, and one drum set, I have a nice bridge I'd like to show you...
  - brandnewlow 17y ago
    Recording a drum kit in a professional way can involve as many as 8 microphones, each one requiring a preamplifier and effects. Add in the cost of the drums themselves and the hourly rate of a session player. 18k may be an overstatement, but it's a nontrivial cost.