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I'm glad they released a 4.7" phone, but the plus is just ridiculous.

by phaus 12y ago

wlesieutre 12y ago
4.7" should be the plus, if you ask me. I'm dreading the day my 3.5" phone dies and has no reasonable modern replacement. EDIT: I'm open to switching to Android for my next phone if anyone can point my to a small one. Priorities are good camera, ok battery life, and not awful build quality. And maybe good support from Cyanogen? I'm out of the loop on Android and don't have a sense of how important that is these days. But IIRC Cyanogen comes with real permissions control and some other things I'd like, coming from iOS. Halp!
- eunoia 12y ago
  Why do you like the small screen so much?
  - wlesieutre 12y ago
    I can hold it normally and comfortably reach the entire screen with my thumb. I can also hold it in strange ways like with my 4th finger on the top edge and my thumb on the bottom, and still reach the entire screen with my index finger. I'm sure that last one sounds weird, but I do it surprisingly often (mostly while laying down). The gigantic phones remind me of 17" laptops. I can see it making sense if you don't have another computer, but hell if I want to carry one around. For phones, it's just a big thing in my pocket that's trying to be redundant with my surface. All I need is phone calls, texting, GPS/maps, snapcat, music, and (usually reading only) email and OneNote. A 6" screen doesn't make any of those things easier or more convenient.
    - DCKing 12y ago
      It's true that you use a 5" phone differently than a 3.5" phone. But a 5" phone comes with a lot of advantages of its own, which you might find hard to recognize if that's not what you're using. > All I need is phone calls, texting, GPS/maps, snapcat, music, and (usually reading only) email and OneNote. Well that's probably just because you use your current phone for these things. Who's to say that the bigger screen won't make you do more or other things with it? I'm not trying to pick on your taste, or say that your taste is wrong. This is just a reply to the general sentiment that you express which I see expressed many times in these discussions. I'm saying that many people complaining about these large sizes are just complaining that they can't use their new phone in exactly the same way as their old one. As if that is some self-evident bad thing. But it comes down purely to taste and - as with anything that depends on taste - it doesn't hurt to try something new sometimes.
      - wlesieutre 12y ago
        > Well that's probably just because you use your current phone for these things. Who's to say that the bigger screen won't make you do more or other things with it? You may be right. But even so, I spend enough time on my phone even with the limited uses. If I had a bigger screen, maybe I'd use it for reading and writing emails. But I don't know that I want to. If I could get a 6" phone that was as comfortable to read on as my Nook, I'd be all over it. The e-ink versions, not the Nook HD. Reading books is a great use case for a screen bigger than 3.5". Addendum - Fundamentally, I see my phone as a minor utility/convenience item. I use it for occasional tasks like making dinner reservations, finding cheap gas, ordering takeout, finding ATMs, tracking runs, checking weather forecasts. None of those things need a 6" screen. I'm sure Safari would be better on one, but I don't want to make it easier to sit around and browse the internet. As it stands, viewing photos is the best justification that I can come up with. I think these phones are just designed for a different sort of user. But people like me can't be that uncommon, can we?
        ZenoArrow 12y ago
        "If I could get a 6" phone that was as comfortable to read on as my Nook, I'd be all over it. The e-ink versions, not the Nook HD. Reading books is a great use case for a screen bigger than 3.5"." My next phone is very likely to be a YotaPhone, which includes an e-ink screen. The first model was terrible but the second model is shaping up very nicely. Perhaps you might be interested too... http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3504276/yotaphone-2-hands-on-review/ http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3504276/yota...
        wlesieutre 12y ago
        YES I WANT THAT. I'm not sure I want it to the tune of $800-$960 though. I'd be super paranoid about scratching it, since there's no really a safe side to set down. What sort of cases work for that?
        ZenoArrow 12y ago
  - ebiester 12y ago
    I'm not OP, but I went back to a apple phone (5s) from a galaxy 3 in part because texting with one hand was a pain.
  - bendyorke 12y ago
    It's so easy to use. Sure I can reach any point on a 5 inch screen, but I'm reaching to touch half of the screen. The 3.5 inch screens everything is just their under your finger. It's fantastic.
  - zalzane 12y ago
    ive got a droid maxx with a 5 inch screen, and it's a bitch to fish it out of my pocket when its got its silicone protector on. also i miss being able to share my phone pocket with my wallet
  - enraged_camel 12y ago
    A phone with a small screen is usable with one hand. It also fits inside pockets easily.
  - Jtsummers 12y ago
    For me it's a combination of ease of use and ease of carrying. The iPhone 5 fit comfortably in one hand and was small enough for easy one-handed use. It was also big enough (for me) to read text without much effort (I have, once corrected with contacts, fantastically good vision though). For carrying, I normally wear cargo pants so this isn't a huge issue. But when I go out or get dressed up for something the iPhone 5 fit comfortably into slack front pockets for me. The iPhone 6 is big enough that it makes a noticeable bulge when I sit down. It's also causes my pants to feel uncomfortably tight around my thigh. This leaves me the option of either pulling it out and setting it on the table (rude on a date, seems like I'm setting up to receive a call or texts) or leaving it in the car (an option, but not when I'm trying to meet up with people and someone gets lost (every time) and calls me for directions).
  - dbtc 12y ago
    If I buy a larger phone, I'm giving up ergonomics in exchange for something I personally don't need or want.
- jnorthrop 12y ago
  I have the HTC One Mini[1]. It is small with a nice screen, camera and battery life. It isn't going to impress anyone but I can use it comfortably and keep it in my pocket. [1] http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-mini/ http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-mini/
  - wlesieutre 12y ago
    Honestly I'm hoping for a 4" screen or smaller. Maybe it doesn't exist. And though the screen is 0.3" smaller than the Z3 Compact that ZenoArrow mentioned, the One Mini is taller and thicker, and only slightly narrower. In the same ballpack though, so I'll need to do some digging and find out how the cameras and all that stack up.
- ZenoArrow 12y ago
  The Sony Z3 Compact is the most balanced Android phone in the market (IMO), but it's very new so don't know if CM supports it yet... http://gizmodo.com/the-sony-z3-compact-is-androids-best-kept-secret-1646103841 http://gizmodo.com/the-sony-z3-compact-is-androids-best-kept...
  - wlesieutre 12y ago
    Only marginally smaller than an iPhone 6, sadly. 4.6" vs 4.7" screen, though the smaller top/bottom bezel helps with pocket size, if not screen reaching. Still more reasonable than the new Moto G/X and all their 5+ inch ilk. I'll keep it in mind!
  - scintill76 12y ago
    Anyone have a comparison with the Z1 Compact? Trying to decide whether I should regret recently buying the Z1C, despite knowing the Z3C was days away from launch. :P At least it was cheaper, and already supports CyanogenMod. Though I could have had fun helping port CM to the Z3C, too.
    - ZenoArrow 12y ago
      Guessing you don't speak Italian, but this video should give you some idea of the visual differences at least... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoneBqMvD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoneBqMvD0 Also, don't know how accurate this site is, but perhaps this will be of some use... http://versus.com/en/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-sony-xperia-z3-compact http://versus.com/en/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-sony-xperia-z...
- umsm 12y ago
  Once your phone dies, go to the apple store and they will replace your broken phone with a new one (identical model) for $150 or $200. Out-of-warranty cost: iPhone 6 Plus: $329 iPhone 6: $299 iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5: $269 iPhone 4s: $199 iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 3G, Original iPhone: $149
  - wlesieutre 12y ago
    I could, but app developers are already ignoring the 3.5" screen devices to the point where it's getting unusable. Not interested in tying myself into several more years of it. Case in point, Google Voice: http://imgur.com/Bsq4gYT http://imgur.com/Bsq4gYT

I'm glad they released a 4.7" phone, but the plus is just ridiculous.

by phaus 12y ago

I'm glad they released a 4.7" phone, but the plus is just ridiculous.

4.7" should be the plus, if you ask me. I'm dreading the day my 3.5" phone dies and has no reasonable modern replacement. EDIT: I'm open to switching to Android for my next phone if anyone can point my to a small one. Priorities are good camera, ok battery life, and not awful build quality. And maybe good support from Cyanogen? I'm out of the loop on Android and don't have a sense of how important that is these days. But IIRC Cyanogen comes with real permissions control and some other things I'd like, coming from iOS. Halp!

eunoia 12y ago
Why do you like the small screen so much?
- wlesieutre 12y ago
  I can hold it normally and comfortably reach the entire screen with my thumb. I can also hold it in strange ways like with my 4th finger on the top edge and my thumb on the bottom, and still reach the entire screen with my index finger. I'm sure that last one sounds weird, but I do it surprisingly often (mostly while laying down). The gigantic phones remind me of 17" laptops. I can see it making sense if you don't have another computer, but hell if I want to carry one around. For phones, it's just a big thing in my pocket that's trying to be redundant with my surface. All I need is phone calls, texting, GPS/maps, snapcat, music, and (usually reading only) email and OneNote. A 6" screen doesn't make any of those things easier or more convenient.
  - DCKing 12y ago
    It's true that you use a 5" phone differently than a 3.5" phone. But a 5" phone comes with a lot of advantages of its own, which you might find hard to recognize if that's not what you're using. > All I need is phone calls, texting, GPS/maps, snapcat, music, and (usually reading only) email and OneNote. Well that's probably just because you use your current phone for these things. Who's to say that the bigger screen won't make you do more or other things with it? I'm not trying to pick on your taste, or say that your taste is wrong. This is just a reply to the general sentiment that you express which I see expressed many times in these discussions. I'm saying that many people complaining about these large sizes are just complaining that they can't use their new phone in exactly the same way as their old one. As if that is some self-evident bad thing. But it comes down purely to taste and - as with anything that depends on taste - it doesn't hurt to try something new sometimes.
    - wlesieutre 12y ago
      > Well that's probably just because you use your current phone for these things. Who's to say that the bigger screen won't make you do more or other things with it? You may be right. But even so, I spend enough time on my phone even with the limited uses. If I had a bigger screen, maybe I'd use it for reading and writing emails. But I don't know that I want to. If I could get a 6" phone that was as comfortable to read on as my Nook, I'd be all over it. The e-ink versions, not the Nook HD. Reading books is a great use case for a screen bigger than 3.5". Addendum - Fundamentally, I see my phone as a minor utility/convenience item. I use it for occasional tasks like making dinner reservations, finding cheap gas, ordering takeout, finding ATMs, tracking runs, checking weather forecasts. None of those things need a 6" screen. I'm sure Safari would be better on one, but I don't want to make it easier to sit around and browse the internet. As it stands, viewing photos is the best justification that I can come up with. I think these phones are just designed for a different sort of user. But people like me can't be that uncommon, can we?
      - ZenoArrow 12y ago
        "If I could get a 6" phone that was as comfortable to read on as my Nook, I'd be all over it. The e-ink versions, not the Nook HD. Reading books is a great use case for a screen bigger than 3.5"." My next phone is very likely to be a YotaPhone, which includes an e-ink screen. The first model was terrible but the second model is shaping up very nicely. Perhaps you might be interested too... http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3504276/yotaphone-2-hands-on-review/ http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/mobile-phone/3504276/yota...
        wlesieutre 12y ago
        YES I WANT THAT. I'm not sure I want it to the tune of $800-$960 though. I'd be super paranoid about scratching it, since there's no really a safe side to set down. What sort of cases work for that?
        ZenoArrow 12y ago
- ebiester 12y ago
  I'm not OP, but I went back to a apple phone (5s) from a galaxy 3 in part because texting with one hand was a pain.
- bendyorke 12y ago
  It's so easy to use. Sure I can reach any point on a 5 inch screen, but I'm reaching to touch half of the screen. The 3.5 inch screens everything is just their under your finger. It's fantastic.
- zalzane 12y ago
  ive got a droid maxx with a 5 inch screen, and it's a bitch to fish it out of my pocket when its got its silicone protector on. also i miss being able to share my phone pocket with my wallet
- enraged_camel 12y ago
  A phone with a small screen is usable with one hand. It also fits inside pockets easily.
- Jtsummers 12y ago
  For me it's a combination of ease of use and ease of carrying. The iPhone 5 fit comfortably in one hand and was small enough for easy one-handed use. It was also big enough (for me) to read text without much effort (I have, once corrected with contacts, fantastically good vision though). For carrying, I normally wear cargo pants so this isn't a huge issue. But when I go out or get dressed up for something the iPhone 5 fit comfortably into slack front pockets for me. The iPhone 6 is big enough that it makes a noticeable bulge when I sit down. It's also causes my pants to feel uncomfortably tight around my thigh. This leaves me the option of either pulling it out and setting it on the table (rude on a date, seems like I'm setting up to receive a call or texts) or leaving it in the car (an option, but not when I'm trying to meet up with people and someone gets lost (every time) and calls me for directions).
- dbtc 12y ago
  If I buy a larger phone, I'm giving up ergonomics in exchange for something I personally don't need or want.
jnorthrop 12y ago
I have the HTC One Mini[1]. It is small with a nice screen, camera and battery life. It isn't going to impress anyone but I can use it comfortably and keep it in my pocket. [1] http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-mini/ http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one-mini/
- wlesieutre 12y ago
  Honestly I'm hoping for a 4" screen or smaller. Maybe it doesn't exist. And though the screen is 0.3" smaller than the Z3 Compact that ZenoArrow mentioned, the One Mini is taller and thicker, and only slightly narrower. In the same ballpack though, so I'll need to do some digging and find out how the cameras and all that stack up.
ZenoArrow 12y ago
The Sony Z3 Compact is the most balanced Android phone in the market (IMO), but it's very new so don't know if CM supports it yet... http://gizmodo.com/the-sony-z3-compact-is-androids-best-kept-secret-1646103841 http://gizmodo.com/the-sony-z3-compact-is-androids-best-kept...
- wlesieutre 12y ago
  Only marginally smaller than an iPhone 6, sadly. 4.6" vs 4.7" screen, though the smaller top/bottom bezel helps with pocket size, if not screen reaching. Still more reasonable than the new Moto G/X and all their 5+ inch ilk. I'll keep it in mind!
- scintill76 12y ago
  Anyone have a comparison with the Z1 Compact? Trying to decide whether I should regret recently buying the Z1C, despite knowing the Z3C was days away from launch. :P At least it was cheaper, and already supports CyanogenMod. Though I could have had fun helping port CM to the Z3C, too.
  - ZenoArrow 12y ago
    Guessing you don't speak Italian, but this video should give you some idea of the visual differences at least... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoneBqMvD0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZoneBqMvD0 Also, don't know how accurate this site is, but perhaps this will be of some use... http://versus.com/en/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-sony-xperia-z3-compact http://versus.com/en/sony-xperia-z1-compact-vs-sony-xperia-z...
umsm 12y ago
Once your phone dies, go to the apple store and they will replace your broken phone with a new one (identical model) for $150 or $200. Out-of-warranty cost: iPhone 6 Plus: $329 iPhone 6: $299 iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, iPhone 5: $269 iPhone 4s: $199 iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 3G, Original iPhone: $149
- wlesieutre 12y ago
  I could, but app developers are already ignoring the 3.5" screen devices to the point where it's getting unusable. Not interested in tying myself into several more years of it. Case in point, Google Voice: http://imgur.com/Bsq4gYT http://imgur.com/Bsq4gYT