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$99 plus $40 for the controller. Since Google doesn't seem to want to provide that information.

by smackfu 12y ago

wfjackson 12y ago
For $40 more you can get a new Xbox 360, although games might not be as cheap as on the Play store. That Xbox is just a 4GB one, but I don't see Google Player local storage mentioned in the linked page.
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  - VikingCoder 12y ago
    "$40 more." So, $180.
    - UnoriginalGuy 12y ago
      I see. I misunderstood.
- Touche 12y ago
  Then you got loud fans and a poor interface for watching TV.
  - benologist 12y ago
    Yeah but if you want to watch online stuff on your tv at this point you probably have about 6000 things that can run netflix etc, including the other google tv boxes, the amazon box, generic android boxes, the rokus, the apple tv, ps3/ps4, xbox360/xbox one, ps tv, chromecast, a hdmi cable or htpc etc.
  - smackfu 12y ago
    Is the TV / app interface bad? I've heard good things about Netflix on the Xbox.
    - Touche 12y ago
      The fact that it's a separate "app" is what's bad. On any TV streaming device (Roku, AppleTV, Fire TV) has content right up front on the home screen. XBOX's TV app also contains a lot of ads. And the apps load much slower.
    - elif 12y ago
      i really like it. I use voice control for everything. at first you feel like a doofus but eventually it becomes second nature. I also plug the chromcast into the hdmi input, so i can swap and PIP all kinds of stuff (also with voice command), and the upnp (local media streaming) implementation is really good too (having frustratedly used the 360, ps3 versions for years)
- baldfat 12y ago
  Being a Chromecast user already I would say that XBox 360 is just not at all close to the same experience and no Gold Memberships.
  - jonny_eh 12y ago
    Gold membership isn't required to use the media apps anymore.
    - Narishma 12y ago
      Even on the Xbox 360? I though it was only for the Xbox One.
      - jonny_eh 12y ago
        Yes, my Gold subscription lapsed long ago but I was able to use HBO Go on it.
      - stonemetal 12y ago
        They made the change when the one came out but they made it for both systems.
- danieldk 12y ago
  But if you have an Android device, you can do much more with this or a Chromecast, because both support Google Cast. XBox only has the crappy Smart Glass app (it's probably good on Windows Phone), and that's it. (I own an XBox One)
  - monstermonster 12y ago
    Its crap on windows phone too :)
freehunter 12y ago
A silly price, considering their competitors cost the same, and have been in the game for much longer. Google is late and entered the market at the same price as established players, but with a track record of failure in this space (Google TV and Nexus Q). They probably don't want to provide the information because it's embarrassing.
- Igglyboo 12y ago
  They don't show the price on the 6 or the 9 either, they definitely aren't "embarrassed" about their phones and tablets.
  - freehunter 12y ago
    That was a facetious comment. The point is, everyone got excited about the Nexus Q but it was too expensive. We got excited about Google TV, but it never caught on compared to the competition. The Apple TV has been $99 since forever, as has the Roku and recently Amazon's FireTV. Google discounts their phones massively over the competition, and that's a big draw for why people buy them. Why price this exactly the same as everyone else?
  - smackfu 12y ago
    I assume they don't show the price for internationalization reasons, but I do wish they had some way to see what it is in your country. Rather than just going to look at the Verge.
- VikingCoder 12y ago
  ...those devices didn't have the whole back catalog of the Google Play Store running on them. This one presumably does.
  - freehunter 12y ago
    I've played games with a PS3 controller on my Nexus 4 hooked to a big screen before. It never worked, because mobile games are designed for a touch screen. Even Modern Combat, it was fantastic with a controller right up to the point where you needed to touch the screen for a quick time event. You can run the entire back catalog, maybe. But no one will want to until the apps and games are designed for non-touch input.
pbnjay 12y ago
I wonder if they're not releasing that info so they have the ability to lower the price if Apple TV makes any price cuts/big features tomorrow.
Steko 12y ago
What's interesting here is Google has abandoned the super cheap device strategy (nexus 4/7) and decided to go after iMargins.

$99 plus $40 for the controller. Since Google doesn't seem to want to provide that information.

by smackfu 12y ago

$99 plus $40 for the controller. Since Google doesn't seem to want to provide that information.

For $40 more you can get a new Xbox 360, although games might not be as cheap as on the Play store. That Xbox is just a 4GB one, but I don't see Google Player local storage mentioned in the linked page.

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- VikingCoder 12y ago
  "$40 more." So, $180.
  - UnoriginalGuy 12y ago
    I see. I misunderstood.
Touche 12y ago
Then you got loud fans and a poor interface for watching TV.
- benologist 12y ago
  Yeah but if you want to watch online stuff on your tv at this point you probably have about 6000 things that can run netflix etc, including the other google tv boxes, the amazon box, generic android boxes, the rokus, the apple tv, ps3/ps4, xbox360/xbox one, ps tv, chromecast, a hdmi cable or htpc etc.
- smackfu 12y ago
  Is the TV / app interface bad? I've heard good things about Netflix on the Xbox.
  - Touche 12y ago
    The fact that it's a separate "app" is what's bad. On any TV streaming device (Roku, AppleTV, Fire TV) has content right up front on the home screen. XBOX's TV app also contains a lot of ads. And the apps load much slower.
  - elif 12y ago
    i really like it. I use voice control for everything. at first you feel like a doofus but eventually it becomes second nature. I also plug the chromcast into the hdmi input, so i can swap and PIP all kinds of stuff (also with voice command), and the upnp (local media streaming) implementation is really good too (having frustratedly used the 360, ps3 versions for years)
baldfat 12y ago
Being a Chromecast user already I would say that XBox 360 is just not at all close to the same experience and no Gold Memberships.
- jonny_eh 12y ago
  Gold membership isn't required to use the media apps anymore.
  - Narishma 12y ago
    Even on the Xbox 360? I though it was only for the Xbox One.
    - jonny_eh 12y ago
      Yes, my Gold subscription lapsed long ago but I was able to use HBO Go on it.
    - stonemetal 12y ago
      They made the change when the one came out but they made it for both systems.
danieldk 12y ago
But if you have an Android device, you can do much more with this or a Chromecast, because both support Google Cast. XBox only has the crappy Smart Glass app (it's probably good on Windows Phone), and that's it. (I own an XBox One)
- monstermonster 12y ago
  Its crap on windows phone too :)

freehunter 12y ago

A silly price, considering their competitors cost the same, and have been in the game for much longer. Google is late and entered the market at the same price as established players, but with a track record of failure in this space (Google TV and Nexus Q). They probably don't want to provide the information because it's embarrassing.

Igglyboo 12y ago
They don't show the price on the 6 or the 9 either, they definitely aren't "embarrassed" about their phones and tablets.
- freehunter 12y ago
  That was a facetious comment. The point is, everyone got excited about the Nexus Q but it was too expensive. We got excited about Google TV, but it never caught on compared to the competition. The Apple TV has been $99 since forever, as has the Roku and recently Amazon's FireTV. Google discounts their phones massively over the competition, and that's a big draw for why people buy them. Why price this exactly the same as everyone else?
- smackfu 12y ago
  I assume they don't show the price for internationalization reasons, but I do wish they had some way to see what it is in your country. Rather than just going to look at the Verge.
VikingCoder 12y ago
...those devices didn't have the whole back catalog of the Google Play Store running on them. This one presumably does.
- freehunter 12y ago
  I've played games with a PS3 controller on my Nexus 4 hooked to a big screen before. It never worked, because mobile games are designed for a touch screen. Even Modern Combat, it was fantastic with a controller right up to the point where you needed to touch the screen for a quick time event. You can run the entire back catalog, maybe. But no one will want to until the apps and games are designed for non-touch input.

pbnjay 12y ago

I wonder if they're not releasing that info so they have the ability to lower the price if Apple TV makes any price cuts/big features tomorrow.

Steko 12y ago

What's interesting here is Google has abandoned the super cheap device strategy (nexus 4/7) and decided to go after iMargins.