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I ditched cable a while ago, but wasn't willing to give up watching some HBO shows, so I convinced myself that pirating them was 'ok,' since that was 'the only

I ditched cable a while ago, but wasn't willing to give up watching some HBO shows, so I convinced myself that pirating them was 'ok,' since that was 'the only for me to get them.' I later realized that my attitude was hypocritical, that I just wanted to have my cake and eat it too. I stopped pirating their shows then, and have definitely missed some of them. So I am excited about this, and will subscribe as soon as it is available. I'll get to catch up on Game of Thrones now!

HelloMcFly 12y ago
I've found that it's not terribly difficult to wait for the shows to come to Amazon Instant. For a bit I pirated premium channel content on release and bought it on Amazon Instant after the fact. I eventually realized that waiting really didn't impact my enjoyment. I do still supplement my NBA League Pass with viewing of unauthorized streams for games that are not aired on League Pass.
- chc 12y ago
  Game of Thrones season 4 is still not on Amazon in the US. I think that would impact my enjoyment, since part of the enjoyment is being able to talk to people about it. By the time I'd be able to watch it on there, they wouldn't even remember what happened that season.
  - HelloMcFly 12y ago
    I imagine you're right - GoT may be the only one I can think of like that for me, but I have the luxury of watching at a friend's house.
NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
I realized myself that copyrighted shows are supposed to enter the public domain eventually... meaning that HBO doesn't own them, it just (long term) leases them from the public. It also occurred to me that it, along with other big companies, were trying to bribe and cajole Congress into giving that property away forever, when it firmly belongs to the public. The public has decided to revoke their privilege. If Congress hasn't codified that revocation, then this is a problem with Congress and not with the public. Fuck em.
- untothebreach 12y ago
  I don't really understand this attitude. HBO paid for the shows to be created, so how is it that the "public" owns it? Some members of the "public" pay HBO to watch the shows that HBO creates, but that doesn't mean that members of the public who don't pay for the shows have some kind of "right" to watch them.
  - NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
    > I don't really understand this attitude. HBO paid for the shows to be created So? It's real simple: copyright is not a fundamental human right. It is a privilege granted by the public to creators for specific purpose, and if the public feels that purpose is subverted, or even if they just are in a shitty mood, the privilege can and should be revoked. I don't understand your attitude. You seem to equate "people not paying" with theft, which sounds like something a small child would come up with. HBO hasn't paid me squat... are they stealing from me? >so how is it that the "public" owns it? This too is simple. If I own land, and I lease it to you for 75 years (you pay up front), who owns it? I do. You still do not own it. You can do (most) anything you want with the land, you can use it to make a profit by using that land... but at the end of 75 years, you still have to surrender that land back to me. Copyright works like this. Have you never heard of the goddamned public domain? What do you think that was, exactly? The public owns the work. The copyright holder only has a temporary interest in the work. It's like you've never bothered to think about any of this. You just swallow all the bullshit anyone shovels into your gullet.

HelloMcFly 12y ago

I've found that it's not terribly difficult to wait for the shows to come to Amazon Instant. For a bit I pirated premium channel content on release and bought it on Amazon Instant after the fact. I eventually realized that waiting really didn't impact my enjoyment. I do still supplement my NBA League Pass with viewing of unauthorized streams for games that are not aired on League Pass.

chc 12y ago
Game of Thrones season 4 is still not on Amazon in the US. I think that would impact my enjoyment, since part of the enjoyment is being able to talk to people about it. By the time I'd be able to watch it on there, they wouldn't even remember what happened that season.
- HelloMcFly 12y ago
  I imagine you're right - GoT may be the only one I can think of like that for me, but I have the luxury of watching at a friend's house.

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago

I realized myself that copyrighted shows are supposed to enter the public domain eventually... meaning that HBO doesn't own them, it just (long term) leases them from the public. It also occurred to me that it, along with other big companies, were trying to bribe and cajole Congress into giving that property away forever, when it firmly belongs to the public. The public has decided to revoke their privilege. If Congress hasn't codified that revocation, then this is a problem with Congress and not with the public. Fuck em.

untothebreach 12y ago
I don't really understand this attitude. HBO paid for the shows to be created, so how is it that the "public" owns it? Some members of the "public" pay HBO to watch the shows that HBO creates, but that doesn't mean that members of the public who don't pay for the shows have some kind of "right" to watch them.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
  > I don't really understand this attitude. HBO paid for the shows to be created So? It's real simple: copyright is not a fundamental human right. It is a privilege granted by the public to creators for specific purpose, and if the public feels that purpose is subverted, or even if they just are in a shitty mood, the privilege can and should be revoked. I don't understand your attitude. You seem to equate "people not paying" with theft, which sounds like something a small child would come up with. HBO hasn't paid me squat... are they stealing from me? >so how is it that the "public" owns it? This too is simple. If I own land, and I lease it to you for 75 years (you pay up front), who owns it? I do. You still do not own it. You can do (most) anything you want with the land, you can use it to make a profit by using that land... but at the end of 75 years, you still have to surrender that land back to me. Copyright works like this. Have you never heard of the goddamned public domain? What do you think that was, exactly? The public owns the work. The copyright holder only has a temporary interest in the work. It's like you've never bothered to think about any of this. You just swallow all the bullshit anyone shovels into your gullet.