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I probably watch too many shows, but wouldn't that kind of threat (real or manufactured) actually push the speaker further into the limelight? So if this an act

by kelvin0 12y ago

I probably watch too many shows, but wouldn't that kind of threat (real or manufactured) actually push the speaker further into the limelight? So if this an actual threat (most likely) the 'bully' is really playing into her hands, so to speak. If this threat is manufactured, well this would indeed be quite a Machiavellian PR stunt ...

JayOtter 12y ago
The whole of 'GamerGate' feels almost like a PR stunt to turn the world's media against gamers. The irony is almost palpable.
- retrocombine 12y ago
  GG laid down that framework itself. If it feels like a PR stunt against gamers, that's because it really is turning a lot of people against gamers. The difference is, the GGers did it to themselves.
  - JayOtter 12y ago
    Oh I'm well aware. I'm not sure any PR stunt could have done a better job, though.
- gohrt 12y ago
  This is why it's best to ignore the whole thing, except to refer criminal threats to the police for investigation.
  - ben0x539 12y ago
    It's easy for people who aren't being targeted for harassment to ignore it, but I think we owe it to those who are to not ignore it.
    - imchillyb 12y ago
      > I think we owe it to those who are (being targeted for harassment) to not ignore it. - ben0x539 No. No we don't. The best thing you can do, as an individual, is not give either side of the debate any further attention or credibility. Witch hunts are common in any activist crowd. This issue is no different than hundreds of other agenda driven issues. If you truly want this type of thing to go away, stop talking about it.
      - ben0x539 12y ago
        The "side" of this "debate" that is receiving death threats is very deserving of attention (to the extent they want it) and sympathy, and has no lack of credibility.
  - DanBC 12y ago
    In the UK: at least half of all calls passed to frontline officers are related to online harassment / trolling / death threats. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27949674 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27949674
ceejayoz 12y ago
> If this threat is manufactured, well this would indeed be quite a Machiavellian PR stunt ... That's a common accusation by the GamerGate folks, but given the number of other women in the gaming arena receiving similar harassment it's pretty believable that these are real.
- ZoFreX 12y ago
  It's very easy to believe it's real given the fairly recent school shooting fuelled by a very similar brand of misogyny. I don't think less of her at all for backing out of the talk.
- kelvin0 12y ago
  Notice I did not accuse her of anything, simply stating two facts. Why the down votes? All I am saying is that whoever made the threats clearly doesn't want the issue to go away ... Come on guys!
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  - idlewords 12y ago
    You're getting downvoted because of the obvious and obnoxious insinuation.
    - kelvin0 12y ago
      Being obnoxious is purely subjective to your perception. Does that make it any less valuable?
      - otikik 12y ago
        Your non-obnoxiousness is purely subjective to your perception.
famousactress 12y ago
I think that's a bit cynical. The guardian story has some more detail[0]. Basically after the threat she asked "will there be guns allowed at this talk?" and the school answered "Well of course, this is Utah". (mildly paraphrasing of course) [0] http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/15/anita-sarkeesian-feminist-games-critic-cancels-talk http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/15/anita-sark...
_wdh 12y ago
I really don't think anyone creates a marketing plan that involves fake death threats. That just doesn't make any sense, especially as she doesn't need to manufacture an outrage against her.
- opless 12y ago
  Though this would validate her "professional victim hood" as some would describe her and a lot of so-called "feminists" online. I'm not saying that she /did/ call it in herself, but it wouldn't be out of character with her (and her peers) stereotype.
  - CocaKoala 12y ago
    I dunno, opless. It would be a great coup for you to call in some death threats against Anita; nobody would believe you, because it wouldn't be out of character for her to make them up. So you get to harass her for free with no consequences. I'm not saying you /did/ send death threats, but it wouldn't be out of character for the people who are harassing her online.

by kelvin0 12y ago

JayOtter 12y ago

The whole of 'GamerGate' feels almost like a PR stunt to turn the world's media against gamers. The irony is almost palpable.

retrocombine 12y ago
GG laid down that framework itself. If it feels like a PR stunt against gamers, that's because it really is turning a lot of people against gamers. The difference is, the GGers did it to themselves.
- JayOtter 12y ago
  Oh I'm well aware. I'm not sure any PR stunt could have done a better job, though.
gohrt 12y ago
This is why it's best to ignore the whole thing, except to refer criminal threats to the police for investigation.
- ben0x539 12y ago
  It's easy for people who aren't being targeted for harassment to ignore it, but I think we owe it to those who are to not ignore it.
  - imchillyb 12y ago
    > I think we owe it to those who are (being targeted for harassment) to not ignore it. - ben0x539 No. No we don't. The best thing you can do, as an individual, is not give either side of the debate any further attention or credibility. Witch hunts are common in any activist crowd. This issue is no different than hundreds of other agenda driven issues. If you truly want this type of thing to go away, stop talking about it.
    - ben0x539 12y ago
      The "side" of this "debate" that is receiving death threats is very deserving of attention (to the extent they want it) and sympathy, and has no lack of credibility.
- DanBC 12y ago
  In the UK: at least half of all calls passed to frontline officers are related to online harassment / trolling / death threats. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27949674 http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27949674

ceejayoz 12y ago

> If this threat is manufactured, well this would indeed be quite a Machiavellian PR stunt ... That's a common accusation by the GamerGate folks, but given the number of other women in the gaming arena receiving similar harassment it's pretty believable that these are real.

ZoFreX 12y ago
It's very easy to believe it's real given the fairly recent school shooting fuelled by a very similar brand of misogyny. I don't think less of her at all for backing out of the talk.
kelvin0 12y ago
Notice I did not accuse her of anything, simply stating two facts. Why the down votes? All I am saying is that whoever made the threats clearly doesn't want the issue to go away ... Come on guys!
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- idlewords 12y ago
  You're getting downvoted because of the obvious and obnoxious insinuation.
  - kelvin0 12y ago
    Being obnoxious is purely subjective to your perception. Does that make it any less valuable?
    - otikik 12y ago
      Your non-obnoxiousness is purely subjective to your perception.

famousactress 12y ago

I think that's a bit cynical. The guardian story has some more detail[0]. Basically after the threat she asked "will there be guns allowed at this talk?" and the school answered "Well of course, this is Utah". (mildly paraphrasing of course) [0] http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/15/anita-sarkeesian-feminist-games-critic-cancels-talk http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/15/anita-sark...

_wdh 12y ago

I really don't think anyone creates a marketing plan that involves fake death threats. That just doesn't make any sense, especially as she doesn't need to manufacture an outrage against her.

opless 12y ago
Though this would validate her "professional victim hood" as some would describe her and a lot of so-called "feminists" online. I'm not saying that she /did/ call it in herself, but it wouldn't be out of character with her (and her peers) stereotype.
- CocaKoala 12y ago
  I dunno, opless. It would be a great coup for you to call in some death threats against Anita; nobody would believe you, because it wouldn't be out of character for her to make them up. So you get to harass her for free with no consequences. I'm not saying you /did/ send death threats, but it wouldn't be out of character for the people who are harassing her online.