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People who still hate on IE are living in the past. Its been many years since the "fuck the web" days of Microsoft.

by wnevets 12y ago

georgemcbay 12y ago
Not just living in the past, but in a specific slice of the past since in the era of IE3 (pre-Webkit/pre-Chrome/when Netscape was big on turning the browser into an Office Suite), IE was by far the best web browser. That aside, while I do think modern IE is quite a good web browser and I mostly use Windows, I still use Chrome as my primary browser because it is everywhere (on my phone, on Linux, on Chromebooks) and IE is only on Windows.
grecy 12y ago
Do keep in mind lots of us are forced to live in the past. Developing a large app for healthcare, we MUST support IE 6, and IE 6 alone.
- munificent 12y ago
  > we MUST support IE 6, This part sucks. > and IE 6 alone. But at least you have this. It's a hell of a lot worse when you're trying to support IE 6 and other browsers too.
- yuhong 12y ago
  Wonder if they have custom support for WinXP.
recursive 12y ago
I still find many more problems in IE than in any other current browser. Here's my last bug report. https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedbackdetail/view/940661/ie10-ie11-adjacent-sibling-combinator-does-not-update-when-combined-with-valid-and-invalid-pseudo-classes https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedbackdetail/view/940661/... I suppose it's an improvement 1) that there is a place to make the bug report 2) and a human actually responded
seanp2k2 12y ago
It's cool (for those who don't have a choice / don't understand that they have a choice) that it's getting better, but when you release version 6 of your software that comes pre-installed on millions of computers, and that software chooses to ignore standards and do things a different way, requiring many many dev hours wasted on making compatibility layers...don't expect devs to forget quickly. When you then go on to do the same thing with versions, 7, 8, and 9 of your software, all broken in new and exciting ways, mostly requiring different versions of your OS to test on...don't expect many people to still develop software for you browser platform. Fool me once, etc. I'll make things compatible with IE again when they switch to WebKit or actually follow the standards.
jqm 12y ago
It hasn't been that many years. Time aside, the past isn't completely over yet until those browsers are gone. I am glad to see the change of approach though.

People who still hate on IE are living in the past. Its been many years since the "fuck the web" days of Microsoft.

by wnevets 12y ago

People who still hate on IE are living in the past. Its been many years since the "fuck the web" days of Microsoft.

Not just living in the past, but in a specific slice of the past since in the era of IE3 (pre-Webkit/pre-Chrome/when Netscape was big on turning the browser into an Office Suite), IE was by far the best web browser. That aside, while I do think modern IE is quite a good web browser and I mostly use Windows, I still use Chrome as my primary browser because it is everywhere (on my phone, on Linux, on Chromebooks) and IE is only on Windows.

grecy 12y ago

Do keep in mind lots of us are forced to live in the past. Developing a large app for healthcare, we MUST support IE 6, and IE 6 alone.

munificent 12y ago
> we MUST support IE 6, This part sucks. > and IE 6 alone. But at least you have this. It's a hell of a lot worse when you're trying to support IE 6 and other browsers too.
yuhong 12y ago
Wonder if they have custom support for WinXP.

recursive 12y ago

I still find many more problems in IE than in any other current browser. Here's my last bug report. https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedbackdetail/view/940661/ie10-ie11-adjacent-sibling-combinator-does-not-update-when-combined-with-valid-and-invalid-pseudo-classes https://connect.microsoft.com/IE/feedbackdetail/view/940661/... I suppose it's an improvement 1) that there is a place to make the bug report 2) and a human actually responded

seanp2k2 12y ago

It's cool (for those who don't have a choice / don't understand that they have a choice) that it's getting better, but when you release version 6 of your software that comes pre-installed on millions of computers, and that software chooses to ignore standards and do things a different way, requiring many many dev hours wasted on making compatibility layers...don't expect devs to forget quickly. When you then go on to do the same thing with versions, 7, 8, and 9 of your software, all broken in new and exciting ways, mostly requiring different versions of your OS to test on...don't expect many people to still develop software for you browser platform. Fool me once, etc. I'll make things compatible with IE again when they switch to WebKit or actually follow the standards.

jqm 12y ago

It hasn't been that many years. Time aside, the past isn't completely over yet until those browsers are gone. I am glad to see the change of approach though.