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And? Of course popular movies are in high demand, so the rental queue is longer. They avoid showing you movies that would cause a long wait. The movies on Netf

by tlb 17y ago

And? Of course popular movies are in high demand, so the rental queue is longer. They avoid showing you movies that would cause a long wait. The movies on Netflix's list are probably better than the new releases. In fact, the real manipulation is the idea of new releases, that half the demand should be for this season's movies. The actual best movies of all time are probably not on this week's best sellers list. It's a Hollywood marketing artifact: because buzz causes a superlinear advertising conversion rate, it works best to promote movies in short bursts. New releases also skew revenue from rental stores towards Hollywood (since rental stores have to buy enough for peak demand) so you can't blame Hollywood for doing it.

icefox 17y ago
After hacking on the netflix contest it was fun to sign up for netflix and give the recommendation system a try. After putting in several hundred movies I now typically only choose recommendations that it thinks I would rate a 4 or 5. Most are good and rank about what they think I will. This includes plenty of older movies including some silent films which I absolutely loved after seeing them where before I would have never even considered watching them. On the flip side the brand new movie of the month that I _must see_ and added to the top of my que I end up ranking much lower on average. So I would very much agree, on a given week I don't want to watch the new dvd/movie that just came out as it probably isn't that good compared to the top 500 of the last 100 years which I have only started going through.
- gjm11 17y ago
  I now typically only choose recommendations that it thinks I would rate a 4 or 5.: Probably a very sensible policy, and I bet a lot of other people do the same. Unfortunately, this seems likely to cause some skew in the recommendations since the recommendations engine (and the people working to improve it) will seldom find out about any severe underpredictions it makes.
chancho 17y ago
The longer a movie's been out, the more likely it is that you've already seen it. The global production rate of quality movies is much less than 3 per week. Once you've exhausted* the catalogue then you're either stuck waiting for new releases or you resign to watching movies you're not that interested in. It's laudable that Netflix is trying to hip people to obscure movies that they'll hopefully like (and make money at it, because obscure movies are cheap) but more often than not the movie just sucks. There's a lot of crap out there. Wasting 2 hours on a shit movie burns bad enough that I don't gamble my time on it anymore. (* I know this sounds ridiculous but some people just don't enjoy movies made before they were born. Most movies are not timeless, and the timeless ones you're likely to have already seen.)
- frossie 17y ago
  The global production rate of quality movies is much less than 3 per week Erm maybe. But people don't just watch new releases. I watch about 1-2 Netflix DVDs a week, and my queue keeps getting longer - not because I am watching Citizen Kane, but through normal tangents ("gee, this Edward Norton movie was fabulous, wonder what else he has done"). But I also watch documentaries and some TV series on netflix too, so maybe I am not typical. I also don't go out to the cinema, so I don't rule out new releases because I have already seen them. I think the great thing about Netflix is that it really encourages you to branch out because it doesn't feel like any particular DVD "costs" you anything.
albertsun 17y ago
New releases create common topics to talk about in social situations. There's something to be said for the value of shared experiences, and that's probably a large part of why I watch movies or TV at all.

by tlb 17y ago

icefox 17y ago

After hacking on the netflix contest it was fun to sign up for netflix and give the recommendation system a try. After putting in several hundred movies I now typically only choose recommendations that it thinks I would rate a 4 or 5. Most are good and rank about what they think I will. This includes plenty of older movies including some silent films which I absolutely loved after seeing them where before I would have never even considered watching them. On the flip side the brand new movie of the month that I _must see_ and added to the top of my que I end up ranking much lower on average. So I would very much agree, on a given week I don't want to watch the new dvd/movie that just came out as it probably isn't that good compared to the top 500 of the last 100 years which I have only started going through.

gjm11 17y ago
I now typically only choose recommendations that it thinks I would rate a 4 or 5.: Probably a very sensible policy, and I bet a lot of other people do the same. Unfortunately, this seems likely to cause some skew in the recommendations since the recommendations engine (and the people working to improve it) will seldom find out about any severe underpredictions it makes.

chancho 17y ago

The longer a movie's been out, the more likely it is that you've already seen it. The global production rate of quality movies is much less than 3 per week. Once you've exhausted* the catalogue then you're either stuck waiting for new releases or you resign to watching movies you're not that interested in. It's laudable that Netflix is trying to hip people to obscure movies that they'll hopefully like (and make money at it, because obscure movies are cheap) but more often than not the movie just sucks. There's a lot of crap out there. Wasting 2 hours on a shit movie burns bad enough that I don't gamble my time on it anymore. (* I know this sounds ridiculous but some people just don't enjoy movies made before they were born. Most movies are not timeless, and the timeless ones you're likely to have already seen.)

frossie 17y ago
The global production rate of quality movies is much less than 3 per week Erm maybe. But people don't just watch new releases. I watch about 1-2 Netflix DVDs a week, and my queue keeps getting longer - not because I am watching Citizen Kane, but through normal tangents ("gee, this Edward Norton movie was fabulous, wonder what else he has done"). But I also watch documentaries and some TV series on netflix too, so maybe I am not typical. I also don't go out to the cinema, so I don't rule out new releases because I have already seen them. I think the great thing about Netflix is that it really encourages you to branch out because it doesn't feel like any particular DVD "costs" you anything.

albertsun 17y ago

New releases create common topics to talk about in social situations. There's something to be said for the value of shared experiences, and that's probably a large part of why I watch movies or TV at all.