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Let's also take a moment to remember James Risen who will likely be sent to prison in January for exposing what the NY Times refused to print. (and of course M
by ck2 12y ago
Let's also take a moment to remember James Risen who will likely be sent to prison in January for exposing what the NY Times refused to print.
(and of course Manning who will be left to rot for the next 35 years by each president)
- tootie 12y agoIt's not impossible, but I'd be very surprised if Risen actually goes to jail.
- ck2 12y agoYou do realize the Obama administration pursued him so hard it pushed the issue all the way to the supreme court which refused to take the case. Which is why when he refuses to give the name in January after there are no more elections or opinions to matter, he will be put in prison as an example. After all these years you really think they aren't going to do that to him? The press will cover it for a week and then something else will come up and he will never be mentioned again.
- themartorana 12y agoThis. Apathy is a hell of a drug.
- nitrogen 12y agoThe press will cover it for a week and then something else will come up and he will never be mentioned again. A group of news agencies should create a scoreboard of unresolved or forgotten stories of great importance. This scoreboard should be mirrored in different places, and have competing scoreboards hosted by different groups, to prevent ninja editing of its contents. The scoreboard history could be tracked and shared in Git with signatures on every change. This way, even if the front page forgets and the headlines change, there is an ongoing reminder of everything we should still be concerned about.
- tootie 12y ago"The press will cover it for a week" I think that kinda ignores the fact that the guy in question is star reporter at the NY Times. There are many media big shots who know this guy personally and aren't going to just let it go.
- mason240 12y agoManning should never even be brought up in the same context as Snowden. It's both discrediting and insulting to compare the two of them.
- llamataboot 12y agoFYI: Manning uses female pronouns to refer to herself now.
- rthomas6 12y agoNeither of the preceding comments used any pronouns to refer to Manning, which makes this comment kind of odd.
- mason240 12y agoI did us the pronoun "him," then I edited my comment.
- igorgue 12y agoDon't need to excuse yourself, obviously the first commenter doesn't know how to hold conversation without being annoying by correcting people with little facts. The person's gender doesn't matter at all in this case.
- cookiecaper 12y agoAnd that doesn't necessarily require everyone else to follow suit. It's probably best to avoid this argument altogether by never using first names or pronouns to refer to Pvt. Manning.
- wodenokoto 12y agoWhy?
- liquidise 12y ago
- icelancer 12y agoLet's not act like Risen is some sort of hero. He publicly railroaded a Chinese-American nuclear scientist (playing up racial fears given tensions with China), publishing false information that led to the scientist's arrest and detainment under 59 counts of crimes against the government, most notably espionage. None of these aside from "improper handling" were found to be true. What Obama's administration is doing to Risen is horrible, but let's make sure context is clear. Risen is not a good person. EDIT: I should note there is really no evidence that the improper handling charge was "true." He merely pled guilty to it as part of a plea bargain, probably to appease the prosecutor.