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Show HN: Find bugs before your users do

64 points by pauljohncleary 12y ago

frankdenbow 12y ago
This is one of those projects that has been on my side project list. I'm thinking you may want to play with the pricing a bit, since you could definitely charge more for the first paid plan, and its a big jump from the $9 to the $199 plans. Are there any types of checks you plan to do in the future that you're not doing now?
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- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  Thanks for the feedback on the pricing, it's a very first draft, so will definitely have some rework and testing before we release the paid plans. The second tier is really targeted at SMBs, where the business value of finding a critical bug before customers run into it exceeds $199/month. We want to do lots and lots of checks that we don't currently do, e.g. linting the JS, correct MIME type checking, screenreader support, SEO, HTML/CSS validation, i8ln, intelligent form submitting, different browser agent support, responsive design, external font rendering The hard part so far has been getting the crawler right, as some of you can probably see it's still a bit buggy.
lewispb 12y ago
Looks cool. Spotted a bug.. clicking the link in the sentence.. "Crawling http://www.example.com..." http://www.example.com..." doesn't work.
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  Thanks! will fix that one asap
dimman 12y ago
"Privacy policy: Coming soon". That would be great.
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  agree, we'll add one, does anyone know of any good template resources out there?
  - aquilligan 12y ago
    http://www.docracy.com/ http://www.docracy.com/ Really like this idea. Haven't been able to test it out yet due to HN overload. Will check it out again later. Also, on the pricing tables. Headers and some text acting up with the responsive design for small screens.
realusername 12y ago
Looks nice but it does not work for me, it seems to load forever. By the way, I've noticed a small bug, the website seems to try to load http://localhost:35729/livereload.js http://localhost:35729/livereload.js so you should check your sources to modify this to the production URL.
- icebraining 12y ago
  Same here, might be the HN effect, but it just loaded for 15m and then bailed out with "an error occurred".
  - pauljohncleary 12y ago
    HN effect, the MVP really isn't designed for this kind of scale... yet!
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  Good spot, thanks!
aw3c2 12y ago
> Crawling http://bughunt.io/ http://bughunt.io/ for issues, results will appear below. > Pending > Oops, an error occured. Please contact us for support or try again. ;) If you get "Oops: Request to start crawl failed" and click "Try It Out" again and again you get a lot of duplicate messages.
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  The crawler has been absolutely destroyed by HN, so I had to restart it- this is an unfortunate side effect of it being down. We'll add some better error handling on the client to fix this one.
cowls 12y ago
Didn't work for me "Request to start crawl failed" after I entered a web page and clicked try it out.
paromi 12y ago
error 502 , Bad gateway
thejosh 12y ago
>Error 502 Ray ID: 178ae6800de40b14 Bad gateway Woops.
thejosh 12y ago
Why does it require http:// http:// ? example.com should work without it.
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  There's no reason, we'll fix that one
brodd 12y ago
When trying to crawl a URL that sends a 302 with a relative URI reference in Location, it fails. E.g. if http://www.example.com http://www.example.com sends a 302 with "Location: /en/".
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  thank you! I was hunting for a similar bug and I think you've uncovered it. Relative location headers are in HTTP 1.1 so we should respect them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_location#Relative_URL_example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_location#Relative_URL_exam...
rmc 12y ago
If you enter a protocoless url (like "google.com"), it doesn't recognise it. Maybe default to HTTP if it's not entered?
- icebraining 12y ago
  It's the problem with using <input type="url">. It's your browser that is rejecting the URL.
riquito 12y ago
A bug you may want to fix: double click on "Try it out!" send the request twice and show twice the errors
k2xl 12y ago
Cool, but how does this differ from all of the SEO tools out there that do the same thing? brokenlinkcheck.com for example?
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  All of those tools are targeted at ensuring that bots can crawl a site correctly (usually for SEO purposes). Bughunt aims to find bugs a real user would run into. It does this by using an actual web browser to crawl (not just HTTP requests). This means it supports Single Page Apps, JavaScript and anything else (including external scripts & images) that the page requires to render correctly. Bughunt can replace a large chunk of point and click QA regression testing, without ever having to write automated scripts.
pattle 12y ago
Looks cool and its a useful tool. I couple of things I would suggest. The top bar where you mention funding shouldn't be positioned over the logo and top links. Because there isn't a way to remove it it makes the header links hard to click (you can only click the bottom half of them). Also the business plan offers crawling for 50 websites. Is this plan aimed at digital agencies? If it is then that's good but if not then that number is probably too high and more links per crawl might be better?
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  That top bar is actually a cloudflare app- it should disappear when you tap/click it? Thanks for the feedback on the pricing. You may be right, we probably need another plan that handles more links and less sites.
MicroBerto 12y ago
Cool idea. We've been using Pay4Bugs though (http://www.pay4bugs.com http://www.pay4bugs.com), it's a crowdsourced solution. You should get together with them! Nothing beats having a ton of bug finders with different browser versions or phones... Some things just can't be automated.
- larrysalibra 12y ago
  Thanks for the shout out! Automated testing is great...the more you can automate, the better! For the things you can't automate, Pay4Bugs (https://www.pay4bugs.com https://www.pay4bugs.com) helps you get lots of human eyes searching for problems in your product quickly and for minimal cost.
HostingDetector 12y ago
Looks nice! But when feeding my site, it seems to ignore the HTTPS scheme, just doing HTTP and getting stuck with the 301 response. As already suggested, would be nice not needing to specify scheme.
romanovcode 12y ago
I'm not sure how useful this is. AFAIK it crawls your websites and tells if you have 404 somewhere and it's all it does?
- onion2k 12y ago
  At my company I wrote our internal front-end testing tool (based on the awesome nightwatch.js[1]). We do unit testing with Chrome, Firefox, IE and Phantomjs, but we also grab screenshots at a variety of resolutions, checking all the links and images (not just for working-ness, but also for content), web font rendering, recording performance API data, and more. From their feature list I'd guess bughunt.io is planning something quite similar. This is just an MVP. It's an interesting idea. [1] nightwatchjs.org
pearjuice 12y ago
I am not sure what the value of this service is. Simply loading a website in your web browser will verify all of those things bughunt.io does - something you do before push to production anyway.
wehadfun 12y ago
Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.
gildas 12y ago
Shameless plug: this is the kind of feature SEO4Ajax [1] already implements for SPAs and Ajax websites. [1] http://www.seo4ajax.com/ http://www.seo4ajax.com/
hangonhn 12y ago
Can it crawl non port 80 addresses? My site is in testing and it's on 8080. bughunt.io comes back with no response.
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  I've never tried that, but I'm going to guess that it won't take the port number into account. We could definitely make that happen though, as that's a very valid use case, thanks!
midnightmonster 12y ago
I am not anything close to a lawyer, but years ago as a web designer I had a startup client who got in trouble for soliciting the general public for investment. Your bit about looking for funding is more vague than theirs was, and I think investment laws have even changed a bit since then, but might be something to ask a lawyer about.
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  Did not know that, thanks, it's gone.
andegre 12y ago
It's been crawling my site for over an hour...is there a timeout period? Or a way to know if it really is still doing it's work? Or did it encounter an error and never returned anything to me.

This is one of those projects that has been on my side project list. I'm thinking you may want to play with the pricing a bit, since you could definitely charge more for the first paid plan, and its a big jump from the $9 to the $199 plans. Are there any types of checks you plan to do in the future that you're not doing now?

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pauljohncleary 12y ago
Thanks for the feedback on the pricing, it's a very first draft, so will definitely have some rework and testing before we release the paid plans. The second tier is really targeted at SMBs, where the business value of finding a critical bug before customers run into it exceeds $199/month. We want to do lots and lots of checks that we don't currently do, e.g. linting the JS, correct MIME type checking, screenreader support, SEO, HTML/CSS validation, i8ln, intelligent form submitting, different browser agent support, responsive design, external font rendering The hard part so far has been getting the crawler right, as some of you can probably see it's still a bit buggy.

lewispb 12y ago

Looks cool. Spotted a bug.. clicking the link in the sentence.. "Crawling http://www.example.com..." http://www.example.com..." doesn't work.

pauljohncleary 12y ago
Thanks! will fix that one asap

dimman 12y ago

"Privacy policy: Coming soon". That would be great.

pauljohncleary 12y ago
agree, we'll add one, does anyone know of any good template resources out there?
- aquilligan 12y ago
  http://www.docracy.com/ http://www.docracy.com/ Really like this idea. Haven't been able to test it out yet due to HN overload. Will check it out again later. Also, on the pricing tables. Headers and some text acting up with the responsive design for small screens.

realusername 12y ago

Looks nice but it does not work for me, it seems to load forever. By the way, I've noticed a small bug, the website seems to try to load http://localhost:35729/livereload.js http://localhost:35729/livereload.js so you should check your sources to modify this to the production URL.

icebraining 12y ago
Same here, might be the HN effect, but it just loaded for 15m and then bailed out with "an error occurred".
- pauljohncleary 12y ago
  HN effect, the MVP really isn't designed for this kind of scale... yet!
pauljohncleary 12y ago
Good spot, thanks!

aw3c2 12y ago

> Crawling http://bughunt.io/ http://bughunt.io/ for issues, results will appear below. > Pending > Oops, an error occured. Please contact us for support or try again. ;) If you get "Oops: Request to start crawl failed" and click "Try It Out" again and again you get a lot of duplicate messages.

pauljohncleary 12y ago
The crawler has been absolutely destroyed by HN, so I had to restart it- this is an unfortunate side effect of it being down. We'll add some better error handling on the client to fix this one.

cowls 12y ago

Didn't work for me "Request to start crawl failed" after I entered a web page and clicked try it out.

paromi 12y ago

error 502 , Bad gateway

thejosh 12y ago

>Error 502 Ray ID: 178ae6800de40b14 Bad gateway Woops.

thejosh 12y ago

Why does it require http:// http:// ? example.com should work without it.

pauljohncleary 12y ago
There's no reason, we'll fix that one

brodd 12y ago

When trying to crawl a URL that sends a 302 with a relative URI reference in Location, it fails. E.g. if http://www.example.com http://www.example.com sends a 302 with "Location: /en/".

pauljohncleary 12y ago
thank you! I was hunting for a similar bug and I think you've uncovered it. Relative location headers are in HTTP 1.1 so we should respect them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_location#Relative_URL_example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_location#Relative_URL_exam...

rmc 12y ago

If you enter a protocoless url (like "google.com"), it doesn't recognise it. Maybe default to HTTP if it's not entered?

icebraining 12y ago
It's the problem with using <input type="url">. It's your browser that is rejecting the URL.

riquito 12y ago

A bug you may want to fix: double click on "Try it out!" send the request twice and show twice the errors

k2xl 12y ago

Cool, but how does this differ from all of the SEO tools out there that do the same thing? brokenlinkcheck.com for example?

pauljohncleary 12y ago
All of those tools are targeted at ensuring that bots can crawl a site correctly (usually for SEO purposes). Bughunt aims to find bugs a real user would run into. It does this by using an actual web browser to crawl (not just HTTP requests). This means it supports Single Page Apps, JavaScript and anything else (including external scripts & images) that the page requires to render correctly. Bughunt can replace a large chunk of point and click QA regression testing, without ever having to write automated scripts.

pattle 12y ago

Looks cool and its a useful tool. I couple of things I would suggest. The top bar where you mention funding shouldn't be positioned over the logo and top links. Because there isn't a way to remove it it makes the header links hard to click (you can only click the bottom half of them). Also the business plan offers crawling for 50 websites. Is this plan aimed at digital agencies? If it is then that's good but if not then that number is probably too high and more links per crawl might be better?

pauljohncleary 12y ago
That top bar is actually a cloudflare app- it should disappear when you tap/click it? Thanks for the feedback on the pricing. You may be right, we probably need another plan that handles more links and less sites.

MicroBerto 12y ago

Cool idea. We've been using Pay4Bugs though (http://www.pay4bugs.com http://www.pay4bugs.com), it's a crowdsourced solution. You should get together with them! Nothing beats having a ton of bug finders with different browser versions or phones... Some things just can't be automated.

larrysalibra 12y ago
Thanks for the shout out! Automated testing is great...the more you can automate, the better! For the things you can't automate, Pay4Bugs (https://www.pay4bugs.com https://www.pay4bugs.com) helps you get lots of human eyes searching for problems in your product quickly and for minimal cost.

HostingDetector 12y ago

Looks nice! But when feeding my site, it seems to ignore the HTTPS scheme, just doing HTTP and getting stuck with the 301 response. As already suggested, would be nice not needing to specify scheme.

romanovcode 12y ago

I'm not sure how useful this is. AFAIK it crawls your websites and tells if you have 404 somewhere and it's all it does?

onion2k 12y ago
At my company I wrote our internal front-end testing tool (based on the awesome nightwatch.js[1]). We do unit testing with Chrome, Firefox, IE and Phantomjs, but we also grab screenshots at a variety of resolutions, checking all the links and images (not just for working-ness, but also for content), web font rendering, recording performance API data, and more. From their feature list I'd guess bughunt.io is planning something quite similar. This is just an MVP. It's an interesting idea. [1] nightwatchjs.org

pearjuice 12y ago

I am not sure what the value of this service is. Simply loading a website in your web browser will verify all of those things bughunt.io does - something you do before push to production anyway.

wehadfun 12y ago

Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.

gildas 12y ago

Shameless plug: this is the kind of feature SEO4Ajax [1] already implements for SPAs and Ajax websites. [1] http://www.seo4ajax.com/ http://www.seo4ajax.com/

hangonhn 12y ago

Can it crawl non port 80 addresses? My site is in testing and it's on 8080. bughunt.io comes back with no response.

pauljohncleary 12y ago
I've never tried that, but I'm going to guess that it won't take the port number into account. We could definitely make that happen though, as that's a very valid use case, thanks!

midnightmonster 12y ago

I am not anything close to a lawyer, but years ago as a web designer I had a startup client who got in trouble for soliciting the general public for investment. Your bit about looking for funding is more vague than theirs was, and I think investment laws have even changed a bit since then, but might be something to ask a lawyer about.

pauljohncleary 12y ago
Did not know that, thanks, it's gone.

andegre 12y ago

It's been crawling my site for over an hour...is there a timeout period? Or a way to know if it really is still doing it's work? Or did it encounter an error and never returned anything to me.