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Entering panic mode too fast, according to the chief of the CDC "there was a breach in protocol"[1] Frankly, this hospital mismanaged the index patient from th

by zippie 12y ago

Entering panic mode too fast, according to the chief of the CDC "there was a breach in protocol"[1] Frankly, this hospital mismanaged the index patient from the beginning and though the woman infected now wasn't on the initial list...the list itself wasn't complete because they didn't properly diagnose the index patient ebola to begin with. [1] http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-chief-on-second-ebola-case-there-was-a-breach-in-protocol/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cdc-chief-on-second-ebola-case-t...

001sky 12y ago
Isn't the breach in protocol using anything under BSL 4? The problem is there is no way to ensure BSL 4 outside of a couple specialist labs. So the protocols are basically dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. "Only 15 BSL-4 facilities were identified in the U.S. in 2007, including nine at federal labs."
- hga 12y ago
  Those are labs, and there's some surge capability, that count of 15 either includes some that can move to BSL4, or there are a few that can do that. There are 4 hospitals in the nation that have a total of less than 20 beds that are set up for diseases like this. Emory (CDC), the NIH in Bethesda, the biggest with 10 beds is in Omaha, Nebraska, and there's one in Missoula, Montana, not far from one of those BSL4 labs.
  - hga 12y ago
    Ah, it turns out we have a grand total of 23 hospital beds nation wide in theory qualified for Ebola: 3 at Emory: http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/2005/July/July%205/isolationunit.htm http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/2005/July/July%2... 3 in Montana, and they've never used them or put their protocols to the test: http://missoulian.com/news/local/st-patrick-hospital-of-sites-in-u-s-ready-for/article_da521772-4839-11e4-b266-4342d105e33f.html http://missoulian.com/news/local/st-patrick-hospital-of-site... 7 at the NIH, and it sounds like they've gotten some use: http://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/translational-research-resources/resources/special_clinical_studies.html http://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/translational-research-resourc... As mentioned before, 10 in Nebraska, and they don't have a BSL-4 lab handy; hopefully they have, or are setting up, a mini-lab there, for as Emory realized, it's not practical to send samples from Ebola patients to the hospital's main lab: http://www.nebraskamed.com/biocontainment-unit http://www.nebraskamed.com/biocontainment-unit
    - hga 12y ago
      CORRECTION: It turns out the nation has only 11 "Ebola beds": the Omaha and NIH wards can only treat 1-2 and 2 patients with something this bad out of the 10 and 7 total beds they have. Which leaves 7 free at the moment.

by zippie 12y ago

001sky 12y ago

Isn't the breach in protocol using anything under BSL 4? The problem is there is no way to ensure BSL 4 outside of a couple specialist labs. So the protocols are basically dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. "Only 15 BSL-4 facilities were identified in the U.S. in 2007, including nine at federal labs."

hga 12y ago
Those are labs, and there's some surge capability, that count of 15 either includes some that can move to BSL4, or there are a few that can do that. There are 4 hospitals in the nation that have a total of less than 20 beds that are set up for diseases like this. Emory (CDC), the NIH in Bethesda, the biggest with 10 beds is in Omaha, Nebraska, and there's one in Missoula, Montana, not far from one of those BSL4 labs.
- hga 12y ago
  Ah, it turns out we have a grand total of 23 hospital beds nation wide in theory qualified for Ebola: 3 at Emory: http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/2005/July/July%205/isolationunit.htm http://www.emory.edu/EMORY_REPORT/erarchive/2005/July/July%2... 3 in Montana, and they've never used them or put their protocols to the test: http://missoulian.com/news/local/st-patrick-hospital-of-sites-in-u-s-ready-for/article_da521772-4839-11e4-b266-4342d105e33f.html http://missoulian.com/news/local/st-patrick-hospital-of-site... 7 at the NIH, and it sounds like they've gotten some use: http://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/translational-research-resources/resources/special_clinical_studies.html http://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/translational-research-resourc... As mentioned before, 10 in Nebraska, and they don't have a BSL-4 lab handy; hopefully they have, or are setting up, a mini-lab there, for as Emory realized, it's not practical to send samples from Ebola patients to the hospital's main lab: http://www.nebraskamed.com/biocontainment-unit http://www.nebraskamed.com/biocontainment-unit
  - hga 12y ago
    CORRECTION: It turns out the nation has only 11 "Ebola beds": the Omaha and NIH wards can only treat 1-2 and 2 patients with something this bad out of the 10 and 7 total beds they have. Which leaves 7 free at the moment.