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My opinion was primarily based on this: http://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/207wlm/is_it_possible_to_avoid_someone_else_from/ http://www.reddit.com/r/chr

by sah88 12y ago

My opinion was primarily based on this: http://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/207wlm/is_it_possible_to_avoid_someone_else_from/ http://www.reddit.com/r/chromeos/comments/207wlm/is_it_possi... I can't think of one good reason why a SINGLE keypress at boot can wipe everything and revert to factory settings. Moreover it isn't even password protected. If you don't reflash the bios and you are dual booting ANYONE can walk over, turn your computer on, press space, and tada your computer is wiped. This is the screen: http://imgur.com/wMtvgX3 http://imgur.com/wMtvgX3 I'd be willing to bet the majority of people would press space faced with that, especially after 15-20s of it sitting there doing nothing. (it sits at that screen for 30s unless you hit Ctrl-D) The only reason I can think of that anyone would implement something so inane would be to discourage people from dual booting. edit: I don't disagree that Google has contributed a lot to the Linux community. Overall I'm a pretty big fan of Google and I use a lot of their products. That said I still think their approach to ChromeOS has been very unfriendly towards Linux users. (they're bad vs. what they did was bad)

ewoodrich 12y ago
The only reason I can think of that anyone would implement something so inane would be to discourage people from dual booting. Or, as an example, to make sure that you won't "mod" your Grandma's computer and silently break auto-updates or cause performance issues without her knowing. The screen is clearly designed for non power-users, and Google wants it to look as scary as possible to dissuade consumers who are just following a tutorial online, or something. EDIT: I'm surprised this is controversial. It's one of the express reasons for verified boot warnings.
coffeedrinker 12y ago
My 14 year old daughter runs chromeOS and xubuntu on her Chromebook and she takes it to school and she has never had a problem with it being wiped. She is, however, aware that files stored on that machine internally could be lost and she takes precaution. I bought our first HP Chromebook 14 as refurb off and love it so much I bought a second one. They are both in constant use in our household. My wife even prefers to use hers over her desktop.
wfjackson 12y ago
The Linux partition and all the data will also be wiped if the battery runs out while the Chromebook is in sleep mode. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8261156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8261156 https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/4nkSEmGoVF4 https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/4nkSEmGo...
- ewoodrich 12y ago
  That may be true for the Pixel (I don't have one). But I've drained the battery on both my Chromebooks (HP 14 and c720) a number of times, and have never lost data on the stateful partition. I have replaced the SSD on both of them, however, so it could be hardware specific.
- uyollti 12y ago
  Not exactly true, see https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/workaround-for-battery-discharge-in-dev-mode https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/deve...
  - DrewRWx 12y ago
    I was actually the guinea pig for that fix: https://plus.google.com/100479847213284361344/posts/9FaVBgxP5xv https://plus.google.com/100479847213284361344/posts/9FaVBgxP... .
rrggrr 12y ago
One word: Schools. The devices have to be reset each year. Administration of thousands of laptops across an entire district is easier with Chromebooks than with any other device. The angst many posters are expressing is possibly alleviated by Elementary OS.

by sah88 12y ago

ewoodrich 12y ago

The only reason I can think of that anyone would implement something so inane would be to discourage people from dual booting. Or, as an example, to make sure that you won't "mod" your Grandma's computer and silently break auto-updates or cause performance issues without her knowing. The screen is clearly designed for non power-users, and Google wants it to look as scary as possible to dissuade consumers who are just following a tutorial online, or something. EDIT: I'm surprised this is controversial. It's one of the express reasons for verified boot warnings.

coffeedrinker 12y ago

My 14 year old daughter runs chromeOS and xubuntu on her Chromebook and she takes it to school and she has never had a problem with it being wiped. She is, however, aware that files stored on that machine internally could be lost and she takes precaution. I bought our first HP Chromebook 14 as refurb off and love it so much I bought a second one. They are both in constant use in our household. My wife even prefers to use hers over her desktop.

wfjackson 12y ago

The Linux partition and all the data will also be wiped if the battery runs out while the Chromebook is in sleep mode. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8261156 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8261156 https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/4nkSEmGoVF4 https://plus.google.com/111049168280159033135/posts/4nkSEmGo...

ewoodrich 12y ago
That may be true for the Pixel (I don't have one). But I've drained the battery on both my Chromebooks (HP 14 and c720) a number of times, and have never lost data on the stateful partition. I have replaced the SSD on both of them, however, so it could be hardware specific.
uyollti 12y ago
Not exactly true, see https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/developer-information-for-chrome-os-devices/workaround-for-battery-discharge-in-dev-mode https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/deve...
- DrewRWx 12y ago
  I was actually the guinea pig for that fix: https://plus.google.com/100479847213284361344/posts/9FaVBgxP5xv https://plus.google.com/100479847213284361344/posts/9FaVBgxP... .

rrggrr 12y ago

One word: Schools. The devices have to be reset each year. Administration of thousands of laptops across an entire district is easier with Chromebooks than with any other device. The angst many posters are expressing is possibly alleviated by Elementary OS.