13 ms·

> Do the people in this thread think that getaway drivers on bank robberies should get off scot free because driving a car is not itself a crime? I think this

by maratd 12y ago

> Do the people in this thread think that getaway drivers on bank robberies should get off scot free because driving a car is not itself a crime? I think this is more like putting the car salesman in jail for selling them the getaway car ... and that would be wrong. > But it's patently obvious that Anaya is a criminal and engaged in criminal conspiracy to traffic narcotics. You can say the same about every bank in America, which facilitates the same. Oh and probably every electric utility for growing all that weed. Water utility too? I mean, it's not like they ask each of their clients if they're drug dealers or growing dope. They don't exactly look for the criminals either. Probably because it's not their job.

RogerL 12y ago
> I think this is more like putting the car salesman in jail for selling them the getaway car ... and that would be wrong. They did not go after, or put in jail, the people that sold the cars to the drug dealers, because, as you say, that would be wrong. They went after the person that knowingly made it possible for the drug dealers to commit their crimes. > You can say the same about every bank in America, which facilitates the same. Actually, they do stop doing business with you when reasonably believe you are committing a crime. http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25965517/reluctance-banks-leaves-pot-shops-looking-secure-practices http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25965517/reluctance-b...
- maratd 12y ago
  > Actually, they do stop doing business with you when reasonably believe you are committing a crime. Did you read the article? The guy had no idea what they were doing. The only difference here is that unlike banks, utilities, etc. he's just a small guy who doesn't have friends in the right places, so I guess it's OK to throw him in jail for 24 years. They had ZERO evidence that he knew what his work was being used for. That's why it's so outrageous.
  - kelnos 12y ago
    They had ZERO evidence that he knew what his work was being used for. That's patently false. You've fallen victim to Wired painting this guy as a saint. If you actually read the details of the case, you'll see that, in addition to the incident with the wads of cash, he also instructed his clients not to talk about the compartments, and also used drug-related code words on the phone to talk about the capacity of the compartments. After reading the article, I was incredibly sympathetic toward Anaya, because that's what the author wanted us to feel, and wrote the article that way. After reading about some of the actual facts of the case... not so much anymore.
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]

by maratd 12y ago

RogerL 12y ago

> I think this is more like putting the car salesman in jail for selling them the getaway car ... and that would be wrong. They did not go after, or put in jail, the people that sold the cars to the drug dealers, because, as you say, that would be wrong. They went after the person that knowingly made it possible for the drug dealers to commit their crimes. > You can say the same about every bank in America, which facilitates the same. Actually, they do stop doing business with you when reasonably believe you are committing a crime. http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25965517/reluctance-banks-leaves-pot-shops-looking-secure-practices http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_25965517/reluctance-b...

maratd 12y ago
> Actually, they do stop doing business with you when reasonably believe you are committing a crime. Did you read the article? The guy had no idea what they were doing. The only difference here is that unlike banks, utilities, etc. he's just a small guy who doesn't have friends in the right places, so I guess it's OK to throw him in jail for 24 years. They had ZERO evidence that he knew what his work was being used for. That's why it's so outrageous.
- kelnos 12y ago
  They had ZERO evidence that he knew what his work was being used for. That's patently false. You've fallen victim to Wired painting this guy as a saint. If you actually read the details of the case, you'll see that, in addition to the incident with the wads of cash, he also instructed his clients not to talk about the compartments, and also used drug-related code words on the phone to talk about the capacity of the compartments. After reading the article, I was incredibly sympathetic toward Anaya, because that's what the author wanted us to feel, and wrote the article that way. After reading about some of the actual facts of the case... not so much anymore.
deleted 12y ago
[deleted]