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Just another reason that I'm glad I gave up watching football. The injuries took the enjoyment out of the game for me. I get nauseous when I see a hit that give

Just another reason that I'm glad I gave up watching football. The injuries took the enjoyment out of the game for me. I get nauseous when I see a hit that gives someone a concussion. Maybe it's my own sports injuries that contribute to my difficulty watching the game now. Whenever someone's leg gets the wrong way I remember the feeling I felt when my arm got bent the wrong way. The NFL feels like pro wrestling to me now. All the cheering the league does for the military and knowing that the league is a not for profit and doesn't pay taxes to support the troops makes me sick. The domestic violence and corresponding punishment over the last couple years also makes me sick. One day my entire commute home was sports talk guys reading off players that didn't get punished for strangling children, knocking out wives, etc. Then I open up the paper and it's football players rapes someone and doesn't get investigated. High school football players sexual torture freshmen. Ugh.

ENOTTY 12y ago
All profits to the NFL are distributed back to the teams, which do pay income taxes. All the players and staff also pay income taxes.
- bmelton 12y ago
  Thank you. It's disturbing to see so many people insist that the NFL doesn't "deserve" to be a non-profit, because they don't give enough to charity. They're a 501c6, not a 501c3. C6 is not intended to be a charitable organization, but to act as a trade organization, business league, etc. They quite clearly meet the definition of what a 501C6 is intended to be, and it's also quite clear that they aren't "dodging" anything in the way of taxes. If there's a discussion to be had on the matter, it's whether or not 501C6s even ought to exist, or whether there ought to be constraints on their existence (e.g., in order to encourage business development, a 501C6 may exist until captured revenues reach a fixed amount, or something to that extent) but it's clear that the NFL is not only eligible, but the very archetype for what a C6 organization ought to be.
  - brohoolio 12y ago
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2014/01/30/the-real-super-bowl-question-should-the-nfl-be-a-nonprofit/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2014/01/30/the-real-su... "When you consider how many pro stadiums – like MetLife MET -1.23% Stadium in the swamps of Jersey – are at least partially subsidized by public dollars, a Federal tax exemption for the professional league – really a joint venture of 32 other businesses and their investors – seems obscene. As Nina Ippolito wrote in PolicyMic: As a 501(c)6, the NFL isn’t supposed to engage in business “ordinarily carried on for profit.” Apparently, licensing exorbitantly priced apparel, granting broadcast rights, and running an entire television network don’t count as profitable endeavors."
    - bmelton 12y ago
      > When you consider how many pro stadiums [...] a Federal tax exemption for the professional league – really a joint venture of 32 other businesses and their investors – seems obscene That's confusing distinct concerns. The tax exemption status is federal, while each of those stadium negotiations is done at the state level, and in cahoots with the league owners and teams of those states, not the "NFL" organization at large. > As a 501(c)6, the NFL isn’t supposed to engage in business “ordinarily carried on for profit.” Apparently, licensing exorbitantly priced apparel, granting broadcast rights, and running an entire television network don’t count as profitable endeavors." The "NFL" organization doesn't do those things. It is, basically, just a payment gateway for the teams and owners. By that same argument, you could assert that Patrick Collision and Stripe are selling televisions (assuming at least one of their customers is selling televisions). They aren't, they're just the gateway. The league entity is funded by the teams and the board, not as a rake from those teams.
      - revelation 12y ago
        And guess what, Stripe is paying taxes. I'm rather confused as to how you plan to convincingly argue that a company organizing a purely for entertainment sports league should be exempt from paying taxes.
brohoolio 12y ago
I will say that I think the sport is the most interesting of the major sports for fans. The way the gameplay is structured is second to none for entertainment.

ENOTTY 12y ago

All profits to the NFL are distributed back to the teams, which do pay income taxes. All the players and staff also pay income taxes.

bmelton 12y ago
Thank you. It's disturbing to see so many people insist that the NFL doesn't "deserve" to be a non-profit, because they don't give enough to charity. They're a 501c6, not a 501c3. C6 is not intended to be a charitable organization, but to act as a trade organization, business league, etc. They quite clearly meet the definition of what a 501C6 is intended to be, and it's also quite clear that they aren't "dodging" anything in the way of taxes. If there's a discussion to be had on the matter, it's whether or not 501C6s even ought to exist, or whether there ought to be constraints on their existence (e.g., in order to encourage business development, a 501C6 may exist until captured revenues reach a fixed amount, or something to that extent) but it's clear that the NFL is not only eligible, but the very archetype for what a C6 organization ought to be.
- brohoolio 12y ago
  http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2014/01/30/the-real-super-bowl-question-should-the-nfl-be-a-nonprofit/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomwatson/2014/01/30/the-real-su... "When you consider how many pro stadiums – like MetLife MET -1.23% Stadium in the swamps of Jersey – are at least partially subsidized by public dollars, a Federal tax exemption for the professional league – really a joint venture of 32 other businesses and their investors – seems obscene. As Nina Ippolito wrote in PolicyMic: As a 501(c)6, the NFL isn’t supposed to engage in business “ordinarily carried on for profit.” Apparently, licensing exorbitantly priced apparel, granting broadcast rights, and running an entire television network don’t count as profitable endeavors."
  - bmelton 12y ago
    > When you consider how many pro stadiums [...] a Federal tax exemption for the professional league – really a joint venture of 32 other businesses and their investors – seems obscene That's confusing distinct concerns. The tax exemption status is federal, while each of those stadium negotiations is done at the state level, and in cahoots with the league owners and teams of those states, not the "NFL" organization at large. > As a 501(c)6, the NFL isn’t supposed to engage in business “ordinarily carried on for profit.” Apparently, licensing exorbitantly priced apparel, granting broadcast rights, and running an entire television network don’t count as profitable endeavors." The "NFL" organization doesn't do those things. It is, basically, just a payment gateway for the teams and owners. By that same argument, you could assert that Patrick Collision and Stripe are selling televisions (assuming at least one of their customers is selling televisions). They aren't, they're just the gateway. The league entity is funded by the teams and the board, not as a rake from those teams.
    - revelation 12y ago
      And guess what, Stripe is paying taxes. I'm rather confused as to how you plan to convincingly argue that a company organizing a purely for entertainment sports league should be exempt from paying taxes.

brohoolio 12y ago

I will say that I think the sport is the most interesting of the major sports for fans. The way the gameplay is structured is second to none for entertainment.