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We trade with countless non democratic states yet do to a few factors such as Florida being a swing state Cuba is evil incarnate. If after 50 years the embargo

by bruceb 12y ago

We trade with countless non democratic states yet do to a few factors such as Florida being a swing state Cuba is evil incarnate. If after 50 years the embargo hasn't worked it isn't going to.

blumkvist 12y ago
It hasn't worked?
- yxhuvud 12y ago
  No. There is still a Castro in office. If the point wasn't in a long term ending of the regime, what exactly was the point of the embargo?
  - YooLi 12y ago
    Punishment.
  - mdjdwmm7 12y ago
    Which countries have nationalized our companies and gotten away with it since Cuba did it?
    - pjc50 12y ago
      Iran. Which is why they have their own embargo.
      - rosser 12y ago
        Then why doesn't Bolivia?
    - pastProlog 12y ago
      > our companies Who is the "our" in our companies? I never owned a company in Cuba.
    - yxhuvud 12y ago
      Venezuela. Bolivia. Peru. Chile. Guyana. Jamaica. The only thing the sanctions against Cuba did was drive them into the loving arms of USSR. Well played.
bayesianhorse 12y ago
I think it's not about non-democracy, and more about setting precedents and reminders. Threats are only worth something if they are believed, and Cuba never did anything to warrant a lifting of the sanctions. The rationale is that lifting the sanctions would weaken the threat of sanctions against other countries. While I would applaud a removal of the sanctions I can understand why it's such a hot potatoe. I think Cuba will have to wait until the next president, or make a relatively large gesture towards changing its ways.
- IkmoIkmo 12y ago
  Absolutely, Cuba was supposed to become an example of what it means to thwart US interests, in most simple and blatant terms. A quick video and an interesting article from Chomsky on this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_K5nLyvijw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_K5nLyvijw http://www.chomsky.info/books/hegemony02.htm http://www.chomsky.info/books/hegemony02.htm
mdjdwmm7 12y ago
If you think we're not trading with Cuba because of the lack of democracy, you probably don't know much about the embargo.

by bruceb 12y ago

We trade with countless non democratic states yet do to a few factors such as Florida being a swing state Cuba is evil incarnate. If after 50 years the embargo hasn't worked it isn't going to.

blumkvist 12y ago

It hasn't worked?

yxhuvud 12y ago
No. There is still a Castro in office. If the point wasn't in a long term ending of the regime, what exactly was the point of the embargo?
- YooLi 12y ago
  Punishment.
- mdjdwmm7 12y ago
  Which countries have nationalized our companies and gotten away with it since Cuba did it?
  - pjc50 12y ago
    Iran. Which is why they have their own embargo.
    - rosser 12y ago
      Then why doesn't Bolivia?
  - pastProlog 12y ago
    > our companies Who is the "our" in our companies? I never owned a company in Cuba.
  - yxhuvud 12y ago
    Venezuela. Bolivia. Peru. Chile. Guyana. Jamaica. The only thing the sanctions against Cuba did was drive them into the loving arms of USSR. Well played.

bayesianhorse 12y ago

I think it's not about non-democracy, and more about setting precedents and reminders. Threats are only worth something if they are believed, and Cuba never did anything to warrant a lifting of the sanctions. The rationale is that lifting the sanctions would weaken the threat of sanctions against other countries. While I would applaud a removal of the sanctions I can understand why it's such a hot potatoe. I think Cuba will have to wait until the next president, or make a relatively large gesture towards changing its ways.

IkmoIkmo 12y ago
Absolutely, Cuba was supposed to become an example of what it means to thwart US interests, in most simple and blatant terms. A quick video and an interesting article from Chomsky on this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_K5nLyvijw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_K5nLyvijw http://www.chomsky.info/books/hegemony02.htm http://www.chomsky.info/books/hegemony02.htm

mdjdwmm7 12y ago

If you think we're not trading with Cuba because of the lack of democracy, you probably don't know much about the embargo.