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that's a horrible comparison

by ux-app 12y ago

lmz 12y ago
And why is that? It's her body and she has the right to remove the fetus in her. Why does she not have the right to put a tankful of Nitrogen in her lungs if she chooses to do so?
- ux-app 12y ago
  Your statement implied that there was much in common with the two scenarios. There isn't. Therefore it's a bad comparison. fwiw I'm pro choice on both issues.
  - lmz 12y ago
    And I am too. I am not anti abortion I am pro voluntary suicide. "Just go to therapy it will be better" vs "Give the baby a chance you might grow to love it". How is it any different?
    - ux-app 12y ago
      Suicide in otherwise healthy individuals is (imo) a mental health issue. Abortion is not. Your initial comment that I responded to implied that discouraging suicide is or should be in bad taste. I don't agree with this statement. My position is predicated on the assumption that life is better than death.
      - lmz 12y ago
        My position sees death as a permanent zero. If your life is continually in the negatives and you have to work every day to keep it there then putting it at zero permanently without any more effort required seems a good deal to me.
        JoeAltmaier 12y ago
        Death is not really a zero. There's nobody left to do the measuring. Its more like a singularity? Its a curious notion that folks dwell on about what its like after death. How about - you won't be there? The question is nonsense.
        lmz 12y ago
        Well maybe the words chosen are wrong. I agree that there would be no "me" left to do the measuring. In death there would also be no "me" left to measure things and find it is negative either.
        JoeAltmaier 12y ago
        Right; so it can't be seen as a solution to suffering, right? Because you won't be suffering or not-suffering; you won't 'be' at all. Its not an answer, because the question is nonsensical at that point. The only question worth considering is: how do I get from negative to positive? And the answer is: if the problem is external, then change your situation (move to Mexico; change your name; go plant potatoes in Idaho; whatever). If its internal, harder. You have to change yourself.
      - ninguem2 12y ago
        What kind of mental health issue do the people in the article below have? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-seeds-of-suicide-how-monsanto-destroys-farming/5329947 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-seeds-of-suicide-how-monsan...

that's a horrible comparison

by ux-app 12y ago

that's a horrible comparison

lmz 12y ago

And why is that? It's her body and she has the right to remove the fetus in her. Why does she not have the right to put a tankful of Nitrogen in her lungs if she chooses to do so?

ux-app 12y ago
Your statement implied that there was much in common with the two scenarios. There isn't. Therefore it's a bad comparison. fwiw I'm pro choice on both issues.
- lmz 12y ago
  And I am too. I am not anti abortion I am pro voluntary suicide. "Just go to therapy it will be better" vs "Give the baby a chance you might grow to love it". How is it any different?
  - ux-app 12y ago
    Suicide in otherwise healthy individuals is (imo) a mental health issue. Abortion is not. Your initial comment that I responded to implied that discouraging suicide is or should be in bad taste. I don't agree with this statement. My position is predicated on the assumption that life is better than death.
    - lmz 12y ago
      My position sees death as a permanent zero. If your life is continually in the negatives and you have to work every day to keep it there then putting it at zero permanently without any more effort required seems a good deal to me.
      - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
        Death is not really a zero. There's nobody left to do the measuring. Its more like a singularity? Its a curious notion that folks dwell on about what its like after death. How about - you won't be there? The question is nonsense.
        lmz 12y ago
        Well maybe the words chosen are wrong. I agree that there would be no "me" left to do the measuring. In death there would also be no "me" left to measure things and find it is negative either.
        JoeAltmaier 12y ago
        Right; so it can't be seen as a solution to suffering, right? Because you won't be suffering or not-suffering; you won't 'be' at all. Its not an answer, because the question is nonsensical at that point. The only question worth considering is: how do I get from negative to positive? And the answer is: if the problem is external, then change your situation (move to Mexico; change your name; go plant potatoes in Idaho; whatever). If its internal, harder. You have to change yourself.
    - ninguem2 12y ago
      What kind of mental health issue do the people in the article below have? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-seeds-of-suicide-how-monsanto-destroys-farming/5329947 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-seeds-of-suicide-how-monsan...