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That is because men are seen as disposable, throughout the Western World. ~80% of those 40,000 suicides were men. I've a feeling if it were 80% female there wo

by ripb 12y ago

That is because men are seen as disposable, throughout the Western World. ~80% of those 40,000 suicides were men. I've a feeling if it were 80% female there would be a lot more attention given to it.

iaskwhy 12y ago
I found that 80% number strange and it seems the real numbers are much more complex than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide The entry paragraph gives a quick glimpse of the complexities but here's my attempt at a tl,dr of it: - there are highly asymmetric rates of attempted and completed suicide between genders - can vary significantly between different countries - males die much more often by means of suicide than do females - reported suicide attempts and thoughts are much more common among females than males - females have a higher rate of attempted suicide than males earlier in life, which decreases with age - for males the rate of attempted suicide remains fairly constant when controlled for age - genders tend to differ in their methods of suicide and responses to suicidal feelings
- baltcode 12y ago
  I think the OP's point stands. Society and the law isn't trying to understand and reduce the deaths of so many guys.
- belorn 12y ago
  One large factor is the prevailing gender discrimination against males in medical care. Those men who goes against gender roles and actually do seek help against mental health problems are often meet with disbelieve, and do not get the same treatment and support as women. Doctors are found to diagnose depression in women more compared with men, even when two patients have similar scores on standardized measures of depression or present with identical symptoms. That reported suicide attempts and thoughts are much more common among females than male seem to have quite obvious reasons. Most men do not report it, and from those who still do it, many gets ignored and is thus not recorded into the statistics.
  - iaskwhy 12y ago
    While I agree with most of what you say, I believe we should be more careful claiming there are "obvious reasons" for something without scientific evidence. What you are saying, which might be correct (and I kind of agree with) is not scientifically proved (that I know of), there might really be a gender imbalance for suicidal tendencies but having "obvious reasons" is not enough, at least for me, to claim it as a fact. I find it strange and I'd prefer more work to be done on this matters.

by ripb 12y ago

That is because men are seen as disposable, throughout the Western World. ~80% of those 40,000 suicides were men. I've a feeling if it were 80% female there would be a lot more attention given to it.

iaskwhy 12y ago

I found that 80% number strange and it seems the real numbers are much more complex than that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide The entry paragraph gives a quick glimpse of the complexities but here's my attempt at a tl,dr of it: - there are highly asymmetric rates of attempted and completed suicide between genders - can vary significantly between different countries - males die much more often by means of suicide than do females - reported suicide attempts and thoughts are much more common among females than males - females have a higher rate of attempted suicide than males earlier in life, which decreases with age - for males the rate of attempted suicide remains fairly constant when controlled for age - genders tend to differ in their methods of suicide and responses to suicidal feelings

baltcode 12y ago
I think the OP's point stands. Society and the law isn't trying to understand and reduce the deaths of so many guys.
belorn 12y ago
One large factor is the prevailing gender discrimination against males in medical care. Those men who goes against gender roles and actually do seek help against mental health problems are often meet with disbelieve, and do not get the same treatment and support as women. Doctors are found to diagnose depression in women more compared with men, even when two patients have similar scores on standardized measures of depression or present with identical symptoms. That reported suicide attempts and thoughts are much more common among females than male seem to have quite obvious reasons. Most men do not report it, and from those who still do it, many gets ignored and is thus not recorded into the statistics.
- iaskwhy 12y ago
  While I agree with most of what you say, I believe we should be more careful claiming there are "obvious reasons" for something without scientific evidence. What you are saying, which might be correct (and I kind of agree with) is not scientifically proved (that I know of), there might really be a gender imbalance for suicidal tendencies but having "obvious reasons" is not enough, at least for me, to claim it as a fact. I find it strange and I'd prefer more work to be done on this matters.