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As a female in tech, this is disheartening because it discourages men to advocate or talk openly for gender equality. How awful is it that we just shamed him pu

As a female in tech, this is disheartening because it discourages men to advocate or talk openly for gender equality. How awful is it that we just shamed him publicly so instantly? I hope men aren't discouraged by this. Guy needs a bear hug.

jcheng 12y ago
The takeaway I got from this article is that some women in tech find the very idea of male allies condescending: http://readwrite.com/2014/10/09/technology-sexism-male-allies-grace-hopper-celebration http://readwrite.com/2014/10/09/technology-sexism-male-allie... What do you think?
- izzypark 12y ago
  jcheng - The problem of gender equality cannot be solved by women alone if that's what the author is insinuating. Of course men can't truly empathize, they aren't women. It's about awareness. Most senior board positions in the corporate world are held by men - they don't think it's a problem at all and the thought doesn't cross their mind. Not all of them need to "get it right" right away but getting them to talk is a good next step. My school recently did a student body survey on this topic: 34% of my male colleagues think American companies have policies in place to help men & women succeed vs 17%(!) women. http://whartonjournal.com/2014/09/29/wharton-women-in-business-wwib-survey/ http://whartonjournal.com/2014/09/29/wharton-women-in-busine...
  - CmonDev 12y ago
    "Most senior board positions in the corporate world are held by men" Why focus on gender? I think every board should have first-generation immigrants, people of different faiths, different races and genders and most importantly no more than 50% should come from rich backgrounds and prestigious universities.
QuantumChaos 12y ago
I agree, it seemed like he was driving at the idea that we shouldn't dismiss the way women were acting as wrong, but instead try to see the advantages of their approach. Even though he didn't say it like this, I imagine his thought process was that being overly aggressive in negotiations creates ill-will and hurts you in the long run. Maybe there are men out there who constantly ask for raises and would be better off if they didn't. >I hope men aren't discouraged by this. 90% of men are simply trying to avoid the entire issue as much as possible, because stuff like this happens all the time.

jcheng 12y ago

The takeaway I got from this article is that some women in tech find the very idea of male allies condescending: http://readwrite.com/2014/10/09/technology-sexism-male-allies-grace-hopper-celebration http://readwrite.com/2014/10/09/technology-sexism-male-allie... What do you think?

izzypark 12y ago
jcheng - The problem of gender equality cannot be solved by women alone if that's what the author is insinuating. Of course men can't truly empathize, they aren't women. It's about awareness. Most senior board positions in the corporate world are held by men - they don't think it's a problem at all and the thought doesn't cross their mind. Not all of them need to "get it right" right away but getting them to talk is a good next step. My school recently did a student body survey on this topic: 34% of my male colleagues think American companies have policies in place to help men & women succeed vs 17%(!) women. http://whartonjournal.com/2014/09/29/wharton-women-in-business-wwib-survey/ http://whartonjournal.com/2014/09/29/wharton-women-in-busine...
- CmonDev 12y ago
  "Most senior board positions in the corporate world are held by men" Why focus on gender? I think every board should have first-generation immigrants, people of different faiths, different races and genders and most importantly no more than 50% should come from rich backgrounds and prestigious universities.

QuantumChaos 12y ago

I agree, it seemed like he was driving at the idea that we shouldn't dismiss the way women were acting as wrong, but instead try to see the advantages of their approach. Even though he didn't say it like this, I imagine his thought process was that being overly aggressive in negotiations creates ill-will and hurts you in the long run. Maybe there are men out there who constantly ask for raises and would be better off if they didn't. >I hope men aren't discouraged by this. 90% of men are simply trying to avoid the entire issue as much as possible, because stuff like this happens all the time.