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This sounds like a support issue. When did you install JACK? Are you having configuration issues? You might need a GUI to make your configuration easier. Downl

This sounds like a support issue. When did you install JACK? Are you having configuration issues? You might need a GUI to make your configuration easier. Download Cadence from http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net's http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net's repository (or from AUR) and let me know if you still have problems.

zimpenfish 12y ago
But the thing is - if you have configuration issues with JACK and not with PulseAudio, doesn't that rather suggest that one is more useful? Especially when you're suggesting downloading extra software -just to configure something-.
- anonbanker 12y ago
  If you're having jack configuration options, you are not using a modern distro. With the advent of Cadence and it's suite of tools (easilly installed in Debian/Ubuntu/fedora/arch/gentoo), JACK configuration is brain-dead simple. In fact, if you enjoy the masochism that is PulseAudio, you can have it installed and make it a slave to JACK. Then all your PA-aware apps can be used in any ladspa-compatible DAW (or even via wineASIO - FL Studio anyone?).
cbd1984 12y ago
Pulseaudio works because JACK doesn't have per-application volume control, and (IME) doesn't allow multiple programs to play audio at the same time. The first time I had those in Linux was when I started using Pulseaudio. BTW, everything was configured by the distro, either Red Hat (or perhaps Fedora), Slackware, or Ubuntu.
- anonbanker 12y ago
  Odd, I'm running Clementine right now, and the volume is at 50%, while VLC is running at 10%, and Ardour is at 100% volume. All running through JACK. Did I mention they're all playing audio at the exact same time? sounds like per-application volume control, myself. I'm surprised you didn't know that, considering the pomposity you took while educating me on Unix[1] above. should we be taking that comment with a similar grain of salt? 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8434382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8434382
  - cbd1984 12y ago
    If I have to manually configure one thing, and not the other, the one I don't have to configure wins. Pulseaudio solves my problems. JACK didn't. You can claim that JACK did, that I'm lying, that I'm crazy, or whatever. You can claim that I'm a weev-level Nazi-troll bent on destroying all that is right with the Universe. (You seem to like doing that.) The fact remains: Pulseaudio allows me to control volume independently of application and play multiple audio sources at once, whereas JACK didn't give me either of those things.
    - anonbanker 12y ago
      So, yes, we should be taking your knowledge of PA/JACK/UNIX with a large grain of salt. Further, your reply is largely a strawman argument (when did I say you were lying or crazy? what's this about the Universe?), and a borderline ad-hominem. I feel this speaks for itself.
      - cbd1984 12y ago
        No, you shouldn't, because I'm your target audience: Techy but not interested in sound per se, which means I can do things to make it work but I am not going to undertake heroic measures to get JACK to do a fraction of what Pulseaudio does out of the box, for example. You're just biased against Pulseaudio. There's no other explanation for it. You can't accept that Pulseaudio is a better out-of-the-box experience, and that that matters.

zimpenfish 12y ago

But the thing is - if you have configuration issues with JACK and not with PulseAudio, doesn't that rather suggest that one is more useful? Especially when you're suggesting downloading extra software -just to configure something-.

anonbanker 12y ago
If you're having jack configuration options, you are not using a modern distro. With the advent of Cadence and it's suite of tools (easilly installed in Debian/Ubuntu/fedora/arch/gentoo), JACK configuration is brain-dead simple. In fact, if you enjoy the masochism that is PulseAudio, you can have it installed and make it a slave to JACK. Then all your PA-aware apps can be used in any ladspa-compatible DAW (or even via wineASIO - FL Studio anyone?).

cbd1984 12y ago

Pulseaudio works because JACK doesn't have per-application volume control, and (IME) doesn't allow multiple programs to play audio at the same time. The first time I had those in Linux was when I started using Pulseaudio. BTW, everything was configured by the distro, either Red Hat (or perhaps Fedora), Slackware, or Ubuntu.

anonbanker 12y ago
Odd, I'm running Clementine right now, and the volume is at 50%, while VLC is running at 10%, and Ardour is at 100% volume. All running through JACK. Did I mention they're all playing audio at the exact same time? sounds like per-application volume control, myself. I'm surprised you didn't know that, considering the pomposity you took while educating me on Unix[1] above. should we be taking that comment with a similar grain of salt? 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8434382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8434382
- cbd1984 12y ago
  If I have to manually configure one thing, and not the other, the one I don't have to configure wins. Pulseaudio solves my problems. JACK didn't. You can claim that JACK did, that I'm lying, that I'm crazy, or whatever. You can claim that I'm a weev-level Nazi-troll bent on destroying all that is right with the Universe. (You seem to like doing that.) The fact remains: Pulseaudio allows me to control volume independently of application and play multiple audio sources at once, whereas JACK didn't give me either of those things.
  - anonbanker 12y ago
    So, yes, we should be taking your knowledge of PA/JACK/UNIX with a large grain of salt. Further, your reply is largely a strawman argument (when did I say you were lying or crazy? what's this about the Universe?), and a borderline ad-hominem. I feel this speaks for itself.
    - cbd1984 12y ago
      No, you shouldn't, because I'm your target audience: Techy but not interested in sound per se, which means I can do things to make it work but I am not going to undertake heroic measures to get JACK to do a fraction of what Pulseaudio does out of the box, for example. You're just biased against Pulseaudio. There's no other explanation for it. You can't accept that Pulseaudio is a better out-of-the-box experience, and that that matters.