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There was a review the other day at http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/testing-a-35-firefox-os-phone-how-bad-could-it-be/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201

by rlpb 12y ago

There was a review the other day at http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/testing-a-35-firefox-os-phone-how-bad-could-it-be/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/10/testing-a-35-firefox-... (I think this was from HN). I was interested to see how they defined "growth" in revenue figures. It's disappointing to see that they're only stating launches, rather than sales and return figures, and calling that growth. But perhaps it's too early to get real figures right now.

valarauca1 12y ago
>It's disappointing to see that they're only stating launches, rather than sales and return figures, and calling that growth. Seeing as this is HN, and part of the start up community. I think you've falling out of touch with the modern techno-economical world ;P /s
- Tloewald 12y ago
  Well, it's out of touch with the techno-channel-stuffing world, but some companies aren't in that. After all, Apple is, despite being gigantic, pretty much worshipped by the startup community, and it is very conservative with its figures.
szatkus 12y ago
I have AOTF with 256MB RAM and I'm not surprised that Cloud FX performance is a disaster.
happyscrappy 12y ago
Ouch: The Good •Per-app privacy controls. Block an app from seeing your location, contacts, or a host of other things on your phone. •It's cheap! •No really, have you seen how cheap it is? It's $35. Off contract. That's like, really cheap. The Bad •The software—Firefox OS was a totally inappropriate choice of operating system for this hardware. There are literally zero considerations for the speed and memory of the Cloud FX, and most of the device's really serious problems come from running software on hardware that feels well below the minimum spec. •The software (again). •The keyboard—No multitouch, no auto correct, no copy/paste. Press "Q" and "P" at the same time and the keyboard registers "Y." This ruins e-mail, searching, texting, typing URLs, and lots of other stuff. •The memory—The phone constantly runs out of memory and can't multitask. Critical background features like the alarm and checking e-mail don't work because the phone is always out of memory. •The screen—The viewing angles are terrible, and in landscape the shimmery-ness of the display is headache-inducing. •The storage—There isn't any. •The modem—You get Edge data. No 3G. Don't even ask about 4G. •The camera—Pictures look more like impressionist watercolor paintings rather than scene recreations. •The build quality—Ultra-cheap, ultra-plasticky build quality. •The performance—Performance is really inconsistent, but it ranges from moderately slow to I-think-I-need-to-reboot-this slow. •It can't keep time. There's no battery backup for the time, so if the phone resets or runs out of battery, the time defaults to last century. This silently breaks all apps that use a secure connection. •There's no GPS. •Firefox crashes all the time. The Ugly •Anyone who had this as their first smartphone would swear off smartphones forever.
- JoeAltmaier 12y ago
  Much of the bad is cultural. Americans are impatient with devices, and feel frustration/anger when they don't get instant gratification. Others are more adaptable, more patient, and content to learn to use the device as it must be used to work correctly.
  - happyscrappy 12y ago
    Job would smash this phone, at least he would only be out $35.
    - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
      Most of the world lives with dumb phones and don't dissolve into childish fits. How to explain that?
      - happyscrappy 12y ago
        Save $5 and get a phone that actually works. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004ZLV4JG/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1412865984&sr=8-1&keywords=iphone+3g&condition=used http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004ZLV4JG/ref=sr_1_1... Edit: I want FFOS to succeed, pretending that this phone is usable will not help that goal.
        Mikeb85 12y ago
        That phone sells for 500+ in the third world...
        happyscrappy 12y ago
        Sounds like a business opportunity.
        Mikeb85 12y ago

by rlpb 12y ago

valarauca1 12y ago

>It's disappointing to see that they're only stating launches, rather than sales and return figures, and calling that growth. Seeing as this is HN, and part of the start up community. I think you've falling out of touch with the modern techno-economical world ;P /s

Tloewald 12y ago
Well, it's out of touch with the techno-channel-stuffing world, but some companies aren't in that. After all, Apple is, despite being gigantic, pretty much worshipped by the startup community, and it is very conservative with its figures.

szatkus 12y ago

I have AOTF with 256MB RAM and I'm not surprised that Cloud FX performance is a disaster.

happyscrappy 12y ago

Ouch: The Good •Per-app privacy controls. Block an app from seeing your location, contacts, or a host of other things on your phone. •It's cheap! •No really, have you seen how cheap it is? It's $35. Off contract. That's like, really cheap. The Bad •The software—Firefox OS was a totally inappropriate choice of operating system for this hardware. There are literally zero considerations for the speed and memory of the Cloud FX, and most of the device's really serious problems come from running software on hardware that feels well below the minimum spec. •The software (again). •The keyboard—No multitouch, no auto correct, no copy/paste. Press "Q" and "P" at the same time and the keyboard registers "Y." This ruins e-mail, searching, texting, typing URLs, and lots of other stuff. •The memory—The phone constantly runs out of memory and can't multitask. Critical background features like the alarm and checking e-mail don't work because the phone is always out of memory. •The screen—The viewing angles are terrible, and in landscape the shimmery-ness of the display is headache-inducing. •The storage—There isn't any. •The modem—You get Edge data. No 3G. Don't even ask about 4G. •The camera—Pictures look more like impressionist watercolor paintings rather than scene recreations. •The build quality—Ultra-cheap, ultra-plasticky build quality. •The performance—Performance is really inconsistent, but it ranges from moderately slow to I-think-I-need-to-reboot-this slow. •It can't keep time. There's no battery backup for the time, so if the phone resets or runs out of battery, the time defaults to last century. This silently breaks all apps that use a secure connection. •There's no GPS. •Firefox crashes all the time. The Ugly •Anyone who had this as their first smartphone would swear off smartphones forever.

JoeAltmaier 12y ago
Much of the bad is cultural. Americans are impatient with devices, and feel frustration/anger when they don't get instant gratification. Others are more adaptable, more patient, and content to learn to use the device as it must be used to work correctly.
- happyscrappy 12y ago
  Job would smash this phone, at least he would only be out $35.
  - JoeAltmaier 12y ago
    Most of the world lives with dumb phones and don't dissolve into childish fits. How to explain that?
    - happyscrappy 12y ago
      Save $5 and get a phone that actually works. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004ZLV4JG/ref=sr_1_1_olp?ie=UTF8&qid=1412865984&sr=8-1&keywords=iphone+3g&condition=used http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004ZLV4JG/ref=sr_1_1... Edit: I want FFOS to succeed, pretending that this phone is usable will not help that goal.
      - Mikeb85 12y ago
        That phone sells for 500+ in the third world...
        happyscrappy 12y ago
        Sounds like a business opportunity.
        Mikeb85 12y ago