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The article concludes that google is dramatically ahead, which is no suprise but I AM suprised, anecdotally, how good Siri is vs previous iterations on my ipho

by aresant 12y ago

The article concludes that google is dramatically ahead, which is no suprise but I AM suprised, anecdotally, how good Siri is vs previous iterations on my iphone 6 and OS 8 It feels close to "good enough" for the majority of functions I actually use eg: dictate an email, get directions, lookup a contact, and dial a phone number. My sense is that Apple will nail the base functions so that most users, self included, won't notice a difference between the two.

KobaQ 12y ago
Thank you. Good luck for us iPhone users that we won't need to buy a new phone :-). In terms of 80 % functionality I think all three are quite close. In terms of general features I think Android is already lightyears ahead. But I need a solid day-to-day phone with consistent usablitity concepts and I'm very tempted to give WP a try as it seems to be the cleanest here. Let's see what WP 10 brings ...
kumarm 12y ago
50% is good enough if its done by Apple. 90% not good enough if its not done by Apple. This is how I interpret most responses when people talk about Apple.
- modfodder 12y ago
  Well, as accurate as I feel your statement is, I'd also say sometimes it depends on the 10% missing from the products not done by Apple. If it's an important 10% that Apple has nailed (or close enough) then sometimes the 50% is more valuable than the 90%. But we all have our biases as well. (Even as an Apple user I fully expect Google to always win the Knowledge Vault race. Its in their wheelhouse more so than Apple's.)
  - wutbrodo 12y ago
    > Its in their wheelhouse more so than Apple's. This is exactly why I'm shocked that Cortana's accuracy is so much lower than Siri's (under the assumption that this test is reasonably valid). They've got a world-class research arm and they've run a search engine for yeaaars, and somehow they dramatically underperform a company whose biggest fans would even admit has a spotty record when it comes to services. I guess the "time on the market" advantage is a lot more dramatic than I would've thought.
  - chetanahuja 12y ago
    "Well, as accurate as I feel your statement is, I'd also say sometimes it depends on the 10% missing from the products not done by Apple. If it's an important 10% that Apple has nailed (or close enough) then sometimes the 50% is more valuable than the 90%" Heh, you not only proved kumarm's point about apple fanboi'sm but served the proof on a silver platter with a little side of dessert.
    - modfodder 12y ago
      I believe that is fanboi'sm in general, but if you feel better you about yourself you can keep thinking it is just apple users.
Zarel 12y ago
You may have missed this sentence: > In addition, this was a straight up knowledge box comparison, not a personal assistant comparison. For purposes of this study, a “knowledge box” or “knowledge panel” is defined as content in the search results that attempts to directly answer a question asked in a search query.
justinpaulson 12y ago
I would like to see a comparison of the personal assistant functionalities that you are speaking of. This study did not cover them at all. I feel like they are a much more powerful use of these types of technology rather than just searching the internet for some factual data. I would not be surprised if the tables were completely flopped on the personal assistant test, with cortana on top and google now on bottom (based purely on second-hand knowledge of cortana).

by aresant 12y ago

KobaQ 12y ago

Thank you. Good luck for us iPhone users that we won't need to buy a new phone :-). In terms of 80 % functionality I think all three are quite close. In terms of general features I think Android is already lightyears ahead. But I need a solid day-to-day phone with consistent usablitity concepts and I'm very tempted to give WP a try as it seems to be the cleanest here. Let's see what WP 10 brings ...

kumarm 12y ago

50% is good enough if its done by Apple. 90% not good enough if its not done by Apple. This is how I interpret most responses when people talk about Apple.

modfodder 12y ago
Well, as accurate as I feel your statement is, I'd also say sometimes it depends on the 10% missing from the products not done by Apple. If it's an important 10% that Apple has nailed (or close enough) then sometimes the 50% is more valuable than the 90%. But we all have our biases as well. (Even as an Apple user I fully expect Google to always win the Knowledge Vault race. Its in their wheelhouse more so than Apple's.)
- wutbrodo 12y ago
  > Its in their wheelhouse more so than Apple's. This is exactly why I'm shocked that Cortana's accuracy is so much lower than Siri's (under the assumption that this test is reasonably valid). They've got a world-class research arm and they've run a search engine for yeaaars, and somehow they dramatically underperform a company whose biggest fans would even admit has a spotty record when it comes to services. I guess the "time on the market" advantage is a lot more dramatic than I would've thought.
- chetanahuja 12y ago
  "Well, as accurate as I feel your statement is, I'd also say sometimes it depends on the 10% missing from the products not done by Apple. If it's an important 10% that Apple has nailed (or close enough) then sometimes the 50% is more valuable than the 90%" Heh, you not only proved kumarm's point about apple fanboi'sm but served the proof on a silver platter with a little side of dessert.
  - modfodder 12y ago
    I believe that is fanboi'sm in general, but if you feel better you about yourself you can keep thinking it is just apple users.

Zarel 12y ago

You may have missed this sentence: > In addition, this was a straight up knowledge box comparison, not a personal assistant comparison. For purposes of this study, a “knowledge box” or “knowledge panel” is defined as content in the search results that attempts to directly answer a question asked in a search query.

justinpaulson 12y ago

I would like to see a comparison of the personal assistant functionalities that you are speaking of. This study did not cover them at all. I feel like they are a much more powerful use of these types of technology rather than just searching the internet for some factual data. I would not be surprised if the tables were completely flopped on the personal assistant test, with cortana on top and google now on bottom (based purely on second-hand knowledge of cortana).