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This is pretty much it. I boarded a commuter plane (prop plane, less than 50 seats) last month at a small town airport. It had pre-9/11 security in place and a

This is pretty much it. I boarded a commuter plane (prop plane, less than 50 seats) last month at a small town airport. It had pre-9/11 security in place and a broken metal detector. I got a quick pat down that didn't even cover all my pockets. From there, I got on a cross country jet identical to the ones that hit NYC or the Pentagon on 9/11. It is pretty clear either: A) The government is so incompetent they can't be trusted with providing anything resembling security. B) They don't take their security theater seriously.

sophacles 12y ago
As a person who lives in a small town with a small town airport, my self-interest implores you to not talk about that sort of thing. I really like getting out of bed at 7:15 for an 8:00 flight - getting to the airport 15 mins before departure time and being at the gate right when boarding starts is fantastic.
- opendais 12y ago
  I don't blame you at all. I've been trying to move to a smaller town for awhile. Massive metropolises are nice and all but I'm kinda bored of it. Would you say I am wrong tho?
  - sophacles 12y ago
    No, I wouldn't say you're wrong. I have made the same observations in the past when traveling.
  - amurph 12y ago
    At the same time, though there is very little evidence that that sort of security stuff does much to help. Adding the extra security doors to the cockpit helped a lot, but most of the other post 9/11 changes do not have a clear benefit security wise.
sprite 12y ago
They fuck up at big airports too. I was flying from Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson to Miami, FL. I was traveling with two parrots in a kennel that were going with me in the cabin. I told security that they needed to be screened in a separate room because I didn't want to risk them getting startled and flying when out of the cage around a bunch of strangers. They took the kennel and told me to follow them. We walked on the side of the scanners and into a separate room. They made me take the birds of the kennel and proceeded to wipe down the cage and put the piece of cloth in the explosive detector machine. Once it came back ok I was clear to go. I never walked through a metal detector or the body scanner. I informed them of this and they were like 'oh shit' and gave me a quick patdown. I could have not told them and been on my way but didn't want them to realize their mistake and then have to clear out the whole secure area.
- opendais 12y ago
  Oh, I'm sure they do. But there is a difference between "fuck up in unusual circumstance" and "Hey, lets board an entire plane of people without any of the security procedures".

sophacles 12y ago

As a person who lives in a small town with a small town airport, my self-interest implores you to not talk about that sort of thing. I really like getting out of bed at 7:15 for an 8:00 flight - getting to the airport 15 mins before departure time and being at the gate right when boarding starts is fantastic.

opendais 12y ago
I don't blame you at all. I've been trying to move to a smaller town for awhile. Massive metropolises are nice and all but I'm kinda bored of it. Would you say I am wrong tho?
- sophacles 12y ago
  No, I wouldn't say you're wrong. I have made the same observations in the past when traveling.
- amurph 12y ago
  At the same time, though there is very little evidence that that sort of security stuff does much to help. Adding the extra security doors to the cockpit helped a lot, but most of the other post 9/11 changes do not have a clear benefit security wise.

sprite 12y ago

They fuck up at big airports too. I was flying from Atlanta Hartsfield Jackson to Miami, FL. I was traveling with two parrots in a kennel that were going with me in the cabin. I told security that they needed to be screened in a separate room because I didn't want to risk them getting startled and flying when out of the cage around a bunch of strangers. They took the kennel and told me to follow them. We walked on the side of the scanners and into a separate room. They made me take the birds of the kennel and proceeded to wipe down the cage and put the piece of cloth in the explosive detector machine. Once it came back ok I was clear to go. I never walked through a metal detector or the body scanner. I informed them of this and they were like 'oh shit' and gave me a quick patdown. I could have not told them and been on my way but didn't want them to realize their mistake and then have to clear out the whole secure area.

opendais 12y ago
Oh, I'm sure they do. But there is a difference between "fuck up in unusual circumstance" and "Hey, lets board an entire plane of people without any of the security procedures".