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Don't you think they already know that? Abolishing DRM will require new breed of company. Only a few can still be profitable without it (Mozilla, anyone?). Tho

Don't you think they already know that? Abolishing DRM will require new breed of company. Only a few can still be profitable without it (Mozilla, anyone?). Those who can't should also be abolished together with DRM as outdated and obsolete (especially the worst offenders like Amazon or Adobe).

krasin 12y ago
I have to add that Mozilla is now shipping DRM too: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challen... That's very sad. :(
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- Karunamon 12y ago
  Let's not tread this ground again. Mozilla is shipping a plugin framework, not "DRM".
  - xnull2guest 12y ago
    > Despite our dislike of DRM, we have come to believe Firefox needs to provide a mechanism for people to watch DRM-controlled content. We will do so in a way that protects the interests of individual users as much as possible, given what the rest of the industry has already put into place. We have selected Adobe to provide the key functionality. Adobe has been doing this in Flash for some time, and Adobe has been building the necessary relationships with the content owners. We believe that Adobe is uniquely able to bring new value to the setting. Well, no, they added DRM to Firefox. They say so as much in as many apologetic ways that they can. But agreed. There's a spectrum between DRM-only software and DRM-capable software. Adobe is DRM-only. Firefox is DRM-capable. Whether that's good or bad, and whether they could help it, is guaranteed debate and rabbit hole we want to avoid getting into.
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Turing_Machine 12y ago
The publisher chooses to add DRM on Kindle books. Amazon doesn't require it; it's a checkbox in the publishing portal. There are plenty of Kindle books that have no DRM.
- voltagex_ 12y ago
  Is there any way to tell when buying on Amazon.com?
  - Turing_Machine 12y ago
    Yep. The ones that don't will have "Unlimited" under "Simultaneous Device Usage" in the Product Details section. Edit: you can't explicitly search for them using Amazon's own search engine, but here's a Google hack that will turn them up: https://www.google.com/?q=site%3awww.amazon.com%20-forum%20%22Simultaneous%20Device%20Usage%3a%20Unlimited%22 https://www.google.com/?q=site%3awww.amazon.com%20-forum%20%... (courtesy Hazzit at ebooks.stackexchange.com)
    - psykovsky 12y ago
      Google hack? What? That's no hack, that's the way google is supposed to be used, you know...
      - Turing_Machine 12y ago
        Ah, you're one of those who thinks that hacking has something to do with breaking into a computer. I think maybe you're on the wrong site.
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        psykovsky 12y ago
        I'm one of those something something? I'm on the wrong site? Does that even mean anything?

krasin 12y ago

I have to add that Mozilla is now shipping DRM too: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challen... That's very sad. :(

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Karunamon 12y ago
Let's not tread this ground again. Mozilla is shipping a plugin framework, not "DRM".
- xnull2guest 12y ago
  > Despite our dislike of DRM, we have come to believe Firefox needs to provide a mechanism for people to watch DRM-controlled content. We will do so in a way that protects the interests of individual users as much as possible, given what the rest of the industry has already put into place. We have selected Adobe to provide the key functionality. Adobe has been doing this in Flash for some time, and Adobe has been building the necessary relationships with the content owners. We believe that Adobe is uniquely able to bring new value to the setting. Well, no, they added DRM to Firefox. They say so as much in as many apologetic ways that they can. But agreed. There's a spectrum between DRM-only software and DRM-capable software. Adobe is DRM-only. Firefox is DRM-capable. Whether that's good or bad, and whether they could help it, is guaranteed debate and rabbit hole we want to avoid getting into.

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Turing_Machine 12y ago

The publisher chooses to add DRM on Kindle books. Amazon doesn't require it; it's a checkbox in the publishing portal. There are plenty of Kindle books that have no DRM.

voltagex_ 12y ago
Is there any way to tell when buying on Amazon.com?
- Turing_Machine 12y ago
  Yep. The ones that don't will have "Unlimited" under "Simultaneous Device Usage" in the Product Details section. Edit: you can't explicitly search for them using Amazon's own search engine, but here's a Google hack that will turn them up: https://www.google.com/?q=site%3awww.amazon.com%20-forum%20%22Simultaneous%20Device%20Usage%3a%20Unlimited%22 https://www.google.com/?q=site%3awww.amazon.com%20-forum%20%... (courtesy Hazzit at ebooks.stackexchange.com)
  - psykovsky 12y ago
    Google hack? What? That's no hack, that's the way google is supposed to be used, you know...
    - Turing_Machine 12y ago
      Ah, you're one of those who thinks that hacking has something to do with breaking into a computer. I think maybe you're on the wrong site.
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      - psykovsky 12y ago
        I'm one of those something something? I'm on the wrong site? Does that even mean anything?