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This comment just reads as a passive-aggressive racist rant. Do you really think people in China do not share? Do you really think Chinese are 'used' to obeyi

by 1stop 12y ago

This comment just reads as a passive-aggressive racist rant. Do you really think people in China do not share? Do you really think Chinese are 'used' to obeying 'emporers'? Is that because they did 100 years ago? Which emperor do they follow now? (if you answer is the CCP or Xijinping, how is that different to Congress/Obama?) Is buying a movie off iTunes for $10 more of a rebellion against institutions than p2p-streaming it over PPS? BYD - Innovative, non-copy cat company (A kind of chinese-mirror of Tesla). Tencent - Non-copy cat company, crazy amount of innovation and market penetration So the above invalidates pretty much every point you make about 'chinese culture' being the reason they have no maker community, because it clearly hasn't stopped them from doing all of the things you say they don't do in other areas.

mmorris 12y ago
>> the CCP or Xijinping, how is that different to Congress/Obama? Not disagreeing with you that their is real innovation going on in China (I think there is), but I don't think this is a great example. The US Congress and President Obama are all elected officials, whereas Xi Jinping and the CCP are not. Electing your own leaders is a pretty big deal, thus the protests in Hong Kong.
- coldtea 12y ago
  >The US Congress and President Obama are all elected officials, whereas Xi Jinping and the CCP are not. Electing your own leaders is a pretty big deal You'd be surprised. Tons of Americans don't bother to even vote, and when they do they vote for the same old shit parties, that are very much alike except for some token issues.
akfanta 12y ago
> Tencent - Non-copy cat company, crazy amount of innovation and market penetration Wait, what? This is a terrible example. Tencent is anything but innovative. They are notorious for copying ideas from local startups.
chaostheory 12y ago
> This comment just reads as a passive-aggressive racist rant. I did not post a racist rant. I'm Chinese. Unlike you I'm not blinded by nationalistic, ethnic pride. I'm more open to self-examination of our culture. Apparently to you anything legitimately critical of Chinese culture is 'racist' even though I've posted specific points. > Do you really think Chinese are 'used' to obeying 'emporers'? Is that because they did 100 years ago? Which emperor do they follow now? (if you answer is the CCP or Xijinping, how is that different to Congress/Obama?) Xijinping ascended to his throne. Conversely Obama and our Congress are elected officials. > Do you really think people in China do not share? Yes when it comes to family. No when it comes to everyone else. This is because it's still a developing nation. Unlike here, most people don't have the relative luxury of an easy life with a decent social net. Who can blame them? > Is buying a movie off iTunes for $10 more of a rebellion against institutions than p2p-streaming it over PPS? I think you're forgetting that both P2P and torrents were created here and not in China. Moreover, torrenting is still pretty popular here. You're right about BYD, but Tencent is just yet another copy cat machine. Tencent's main differentiation is the scope and range of copycatting, and no not all of it is from the West since S Korea and Japan are so close by. You haven't really disproved that mainland China has an overall culture of obey and follow. The reason that there's not many people who don't fit the opposite mold over there is because most of them left the mainland a long time ago. It was natural for us, since we are descendants of pirates.

by 1stop 12y ago

mmorris 12y ago

>> the CCP or Xijinping, how is that different to Congress/Obama? Not disagreeing with you that their is real innovation going on in China (I think there is), but I don't think this is a great example. The US Congress and President Obama are all elected officials, whereas Xi Jinping and the CCP are not. Electing your own leaders is a pretty big deal, thus the protests in Hong Kong.

coldtea 12y ago
>The US Congress and President Obama are all elected officials, whereas Xi Jinping and the CCP are not. Electing your own leaders is a pretty big deal You'd be surprised. Tons of Americans don't bother to even vote, and when they do they vote for the same old shit parties, that are very much alike except for some token issues.

akfanta 12y ago

> Tencent - Non-copy cat company, crazy amount of innovation and market penetration Wait, what? This is a terrible example. Tencent is anything but innovative. They are notorious for copying ideas from local startups.

chaostheory 12y ago

> This comment just reads as a passive-aggressive racist rant. I did not post a racist rant. I'm Chinese. Unlike you I'm not blinded by nationalistic, ethnic pride. I'm more open to self-examination of our culture. Apparently to you anything legitimately critical of Chinese culture is 'racist' even though I've posted specific points. > Do you really think Chinese are 'used' to obeying 'emporers'? Is that because they did 100 years ago? Which emperor do they follow now? (if you answer is the CCP or Xijinping, how is that different to Congress/Obama?) Xijinping ascended to his throne. Conversely Obama and our Congress are elected officials. > Do you really think people in China do not share? Yes when it comes to family. No when it comes to everyone else. This is because it's still a developing nation. Unlike here, most people don't have the relative luxury of an easy life with a decent social net. Who can blame them? > Is buying a movie off iTunes for $10 more of a rebellion against institutions than p2p-streaming it over PPS? I think you're forgetting that both P2P and torrents were created here and not in China. Moreover, torrenting is still pretty popular here. You're right about BYD, but Tencent is just yet another copy cat machine. Tencent's main differentiation is the scope and range of copycatting, and no not all of it is from the West since S Korea and Japan are so close by. You haven't really disproved that mainland China has an overall culture of obey and follow. The reason that there's not many people who don't fit the opposite mold over there is because most of them left the mainland a long time ago. It was natural for us, since we are descendants of pirates.