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Of course, the Constitution doesn't grant rights. Do you have a natural right to be left alone if you so choose? Do you have a natural right to not be a witne

Of course, the Constitution doesn't grant rights. Do you have a natural right to be left alone if you so choose? Do you have a natural right to not be a witness against yourself? It seems a society based on popular sovereignty should define these rights as inherent and innate to being a person. And if you do assert your Constitutional rights, it's an easy way to escalate a situation where you soon learn the meaning to "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride."

anonbanker 12y ago
Asserting your rights is a fantastic ride, if you know how to do it. Everyone should Google how Geithner beat both rap and ride from the NYPD in four hours.that guy's a pro. If you don't know how to properly assert your rights, then you have none; expect to have your window smashed in, and be pulled out of your car. Or have cops and social workers come to remove your kids from an "unsafe" house 30 minutes after the power company shuts off the power for some reason. But if you do it right, you're treated extremely politely by policemen and justice system participants.
- Zikes 12y ago
  That sounds like a terrifyingly bleak way to live.
  - anonbanker 12y ago
    It's only bleak if you lose. :-)
    - Zikes 12y ago
      You only have to lose once.
- bagels 12y ago
  Do you have a link to a story? A cursory search reveals people complaining about being duped by a video that was posted two years after some event.
  - anonbanker 12y ago
    Forgive the lack of a link. This was discussed at a lunch with fellow bankers a few years back, and one of my acquaintances had a rather detailed run-down. I figure it was more publically-discussed. As I have no citation, take this with as large a grain of salt as you'd like. :-)
- mindslight 12y ago
  Lacking actionable specifics that can survive independent testing, it seems like the straightforward explanation of "how" is simply being well-connected. This does not scale.
  - anonbanker 12y ago
    I do believe you're right about it not scaling. Police states never do. Though I'm not sure republican forms of government (or indeed "democracy" itself) scale too well , either.

anonbanker 12y ago

Asserting your rights is a fantastic ride, if you know how to do it. Everyone should Google how Geithner beat both rap and ride from the NYPD in four hours.that guy's a pro. If you don't know how to properly assert your rights, then you have none; expect to have your window smashed in, and be pulled out of your car. Or have cops and social workers come to remove your kids from an "unsafe" house 30 minutes after the power company shuts off the power for some reason. But if you do it right, you're treated extremely politely by policemen and justice system participants.

Zikes 12y ago
That sounds like a terrifyingly bleak way to live.
- anonbanker 12y ago
  It's only bleak if you lose. :-)
  - Zikes 12y ago
    You only have to lose once.
bagels 12y ago
Do you have a link to a story? A cursory search reveals people complaining about being duped by a video that was posted two years after some event.
- anonbanker 12y ago
  Forgive the lack of a link. This was discussed at a lunch with fellow bankers a few years back, and one of my acquaintances had a rather detailed run-down. I figure it was more publically-discussed. As I have no citation, take this with as large a grain of salt as you'd like. :-)
mindslight 12y ago
Lacking actionable specifics that can survive independent testing, it seems like the straightforward explanation of "how" is simply being well-connected. This does not scale.
- anonbanker 12y ago
  I do believe you're right about it not scaling. Police states never do. Though I'm not sure republican forms of government (or indeed "democracy" itself) scale too well , either.