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Ebola in Spain: Nurse 'infected in Madrid'

51 points by shill 12y ago

waps 12y ago
Well, Ebola is pretty famous for changing hospitals into deathtraps. I guess European safety procedures aren't sufficient to eliminate the risk, and hopefully they're testing every patient and visitor discharged in the last week as well. I hope to heaven they won't find anyone, but if Africa's MSF (doctors without borders) hospitals are any indication they probably will.
- coherentpony 12y ago
  > I guess European safety procedures aren't sufficient to eliminate the risk, ... Why?
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  - waps 12y ago
    Um because one hospital staff member got herself infected (and then presumably went on to treat others, with less safety procedures, while infected with ebola). This is the sort of thing that has happened in over a dozen MSF hospitals in Africa.
    - coherentpony 12y ago
      "The nurse who recently became infected while caring for two Ebola patients in Spain had twice gone into the room where one of the the patients was being treated - to be directly involved in his care and to disinfect the room after his death. Both times she was wearing protective clothing." http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29518703 http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29518703
- darrhiggs 12y ago
  >> I guess European safety procedures aren't sufficient to eliminate the risk I believe this would be better stated as 'Spanish safety practices'; the procedures that are meant to be followed seem to be from Medecins Sans Frontieres.
quaiks 12y ago
Yeah we rocks...
runarb 12y ago
Maybe flying thus victims around half the world is not such a good idea after all. Especially if thus space suit looking garments are unable to hold the virus out. I just heard that Norway will receive a patient tonight also[0]. 0: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/ebola/norwegian-woman-infected-with-ebola/a/23310487/ http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/ebola/norwegian-woman-infe...
AlbertoGP 12y ago
It's not surprising that this happened if you know about the many irregularities when transporting the Spanish missionary from Africa. Here is a Google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=/language_tools&u=http%3A//tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/08/10/se-debe-transportar-asi-a-un-infectado-con-ebola/ http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&ie=UTF-... Original in Spanish: http://tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/08/10/se-debe-transportar-asi-a-un-infectado-con-ebola/ http://tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/08/10/se-debe-transportar-... Scroll down for the pictures of people with no or inadequate protection participating in the operation. What I don't understand is why the interest in bringing back such patients instead of sending medicines and supplies there to treat them in place.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > What I don't understand is why the interest in bringing back such patients instead of sending medicines and supplies there to treat them in place. Because its easier to transport patients that medical infrastructure for supportive care (which is more than just a satchel of medicines and supplies.)
dz0ny 12y ago
Possible locations where she stayed(having fever, beeing active carrier) http://img.minus.com/ibiZ8OhdjDYC8K.gif http://img.minus.com/ibiZ8OhdjDYC8K.gif Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2ignxj/nurse_infected_with_ebola_in_spain/cl23mpa http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2ignxj/nurse_infe...

51 points by shill 12y ago

waps 12y ago

Well, Ebola is pretty famous for changing hospitals into deathtraps. I guess European safety procedures aren't sufficient to eliminate the risk, and hopefully they're testing every patient and visitor discharged in the last week as well. I hope to heaven they won't find anyone, but if Africa's MSF (doctors without borders) hospitals are any indication they probably will.

coherentpony 12y ago
> I guess European safety procedures aren't sufficient to eliminate the risk, ... Why?
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- waps 12y ago
  Um because one hospital staff member got herself infected (and then presumably went on to treat others, with less safety procedures, while infected with ebola). This is the sort of thing that has happened in over a dozen MSF hospitals in Africa.
  - coherentpony 12y ago
    "The nurse who recently became infected while caring for two Ebola patients in Spain had twice gone into the room where one of the the patients was being treated - to be directly involved in his care and to disinfect the room after his death. Both times she was wearing protective clothing." http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29518703 http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29518703
darrhiggs 12y ago
>> I guess European safety procedures aren't sufficient to eliminate the risk I believe this would be better stated as 'Spanish safety practices'; the procedures that are meant to be followed seem to be from Medecins Sans Frontieres.

quaiks 12y ago

Yeah we rocks...

runarb 12y ago

Maybe flying thus victims around half the world is not such a good idea after all. Especially if thus space suit looking garments are unable to hold the virus out. I just heard that Norway will receive a patient tonight also[0]. 0: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/ebola/norwegian-woman-infected-with-ebola/a/23310487/ http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/ebola/norwegian-woman-infe...

AlbertoGP 12y ago

It's not surprising that this happened if you know about the many irregularities when transporting the Spanish missionary from Africa. Here is a Google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=/language_tools&u=http%3A//tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/08/10/se-debe-transportar-asi-a-un-infectado-con-ebola/ http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&ie=UTF-... Original in Spanish: http://tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/08/10/se-debe-transportar-asi-a-un-infectado-con-ebola/ http://tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/08/10/se-debe-transportar-... Scroll down for the pictures of people with no or inadequate protection participating in the operation. What I don't understand is why the interest in bringing back such patients instead of sending medicines and supplies there to treat them in place.

dragonwriter 12y ago
> What I don't understand is why the interest in bringing back such patients instead of sending medicines and supplies there to treat them in place. Because its easier to transport patients that medical infrastructure for supportive care (which is more than just a satchel of medicines and supplies.)

dz0ny 12y ago

Possible locations where she stayed(having fever, beeing active carrier) http://img.minus.com/ibiZ8OhdjDYC8K.gif http://img.minus.com/ibiZ8OhdjDYC8K.gif Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2ignxj/nurse_infected_with_ebola_in_spain/cl23mpa http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2ignxj/nurse_infe...