>when I was younger I did not always stay technical in flamewars, but nowadays I am pretty good at that I would have really hated to see him younger then. The

>when I was younger I did not always stay technical in flamewars, but nowadays I am pretty good at that I would have really hated to see him younger then. These days every project he is involved with is pretty much a textbook case of how not to handle your community. If someone has a grievance with what you're doing, listen, explain why you don't care/can't do anything about it and let them feel like they had some impact on you. Instead there you have the "you're doing it wrong", "I'm more important than you", and "you're too stupid to understand how awesome this actually is" syndromes in full force everywhere. Poettering and everyone who has anything to do with redhat expects users to thank him for shitting on them for free when Steve Jobs asks people to pay money for the privilege. If we wanted that we'd be paying Apple, we aren't because a long time ago we decided that certain thing were a lot more important to us than that. And he along with the people like him have decided that we need to be more like Apple for our own good.