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Your posts on this thread are quite strange. It's almost as if you are in complete ignorance of the most fundamental criticisms of capitalism. I'm not saying yo

Your posts on this thread are quite strange. It's almost as if you are in complete ignorance of the most fundamental criticisms of capitalism. I'm not saying you have to agree with them, but it's bizarre that you are wildly thrashing about in confusion over topics that have been well discussed for over a century. The position of the workers here is not new, neither is their argument, but you have never encountered it before? You seem to be implicitly assuming that the corporation will fight for their position, and that there is nothing wrong with that. When workers do the same suddenly you are left in shock and disgust. Why is that? If Facebook wants to hire cheaper bus drivers, then they should just relocate to a cheaper area, right?

beagle3 12y ago
> If Facebook wants to hire cheaper bus drivers, then they should just relocate to a cheaper area, right? If they couldn't find them, or were unable to do so by laws (e.g. minimum wage), then - yes, they should. And in fact many companies move as a result of regulations or a talent pool that becomes too expensive. What exactly is your argument? That the drivers are right? (I don't have an opinion) That the fight is legitimate? (Yes, the fight is legitimate, but it is also legitimate for facebook to say "forget it, we'll get someone else to drive our buses". You can only afford to fight if you can afford to lose)
DannyBee 12y ago
"The position of the workers here is not new, neither is their argument, but you have never encountered it before?" Of course I have. It hasn't made actual sense for a very long time, however. "You seem to be implicitly assuming that the corporation will fight for their position, and that there is nothing wrong with that. When workers do the same suddenly you are left in shock and disgust. Why is that?" Because the corporation is already competing for talent in the other direction (very much so in fact!), but when it's the workers that need to compete, their answer is to complain that their is competition? "If Facebook wants to hire cheaper bus drivers, then they should just relocate to a cheaper area, right?" Sure, this is a viable alternative to me as well. Companies often do move when it becomes economically infeasible to stay where they are.
tvhiggins 12y ago
don't understand what this has to do with facebook moving. they'd just hire another bus contractor if the current one got too expensive

beagle3 12y ago

> If Facebook wants to hire cheaper bus drivers, then they should just relocate to a cheaper area, right? If they couldn't find them, or were unable to do so by laws (e.g. minimum wage), then - yes, they should. And in fact many companies move as a result of regulations or a talent pool that becomes too expensive. What exactly is your argument? That the drivers are right? (I don't have an opinion) That the fight is legitimate? (Yes, the fight is legitimate, but it is also legitimate for facebook to say "forget it, we'll get someone else to drive our buses". You can only afford to fight if you can afford to lose)

DannyBee 12y ago

"The position of the workers here is not new, neither is their argument, but you have never encountered it before?" Of course I have. It hasn't made actual sense for a very long time, however. "You seem to be implicitly assuming that the corporation will fight for their position, and that there is nothing wrong with that. When workers do the same suddenly you are left in shock and disgust. Why is that?" Because the corporation is already competing for talent in the other direction (very much so in fact!), but when it's the workers that need to compete, their answer is to complain that their is competition? "If Facebook wants to hire cheaper bus drivers, then they should just relocate to a cheaper area, right?" Sure, this is a viable alternative to me as well. Companies often do move when it becomes economically infeasible to stay where they are.

tvhiggins 12y ago

don't understand what this has to do with facebook moving. they'd just hire another bus contractor if the current one got too expensive