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> But increased interest rates or a sudden stock-market chill could slam on the brakes. ZIRP will end. The stock market will not continue to be an easy source
by 7Figures2Commas 12y ago
> But increased interest rates or a sudden stock-market chill could slam on the brakes.
ZIRP will end. The stock market will not continue to be an easy source of double-digit annual returns forever.
The question is always timing, but anybody who is following the Fed and looking at the action in the market can tell you that we're closer to the end of the current environment than we are to the beginning. That doesn't necessarily mean a meltdown is coming (it's of course a real possibility), but even modest changes that inflict minimal pain overall could have significant implications for the startup scene.
For all of the genuinely smart, successful people in the Bay Area, I'm constantly amazed at how few people here seem to be looking at how the broader environment has made the most recent boom possible. Mention ZIRP and the majority of people will ask "What do they do?" thinking ZIRP refers to a hot new startup.
> More worrisome, Mr. Moeller says, are startups with small teams looking for massive spaces and locking themselves in to long leases. Startups are signing five- to seven-year leases on spaces that used to require two, and more landlords are pushing for 10-year leases on new construction. Those could become a burden if financing tightens.
Generally speaking, the landlords are far savvier than the entrepreneurs they're leasing to. They're not pushing 10 year leases to help tenants lock in a good deal.
> Mr. Altman says he met a few months ago with an entrepreneur who drove up in a new Porsche sport-utility vehicle. The man’s startup had completed a $10 million early round of financing the previous week. Mr. Altman says he looked at him sternly, asking him, “What message do you think you’re sending to the rest of the company?”
The message the entrepreneur is sending to his employees is irrelevant. If there's anything of importance in this anecdote, it's what such behavior says about the mindset of some of the founders investors are lavishing with millions of dollars of investment.
- sshumaker 12y agoI'm not sure if the landlords are as savvy as you think. If the startup runs out of money, landlords will be the last in line at bankruptcy proceedings. It's hard to claim losses for the next 6 years of lease income when they can turn around and rent the space to a new tenant.
- 7Figures2Commas 12y agoAre you suggesting that commercial landlords don't understand the risk of bankruptcy? First, not every startup is going to die. Second, you don't necessarily need your tenants to survive to capitalize on these leases. For example, leases affect a property's value. If you're looking to sell a building, having tenants locked into long-term leases at record or near-record rates is not going to hurt you. The landlords have been through booms and busts before and know more about the commercial real estate market than the entrepreneurs they are leasing to. That they're increasingly looking to lock in longer leases is a good clue as to where they think we are in the current cycle.
- Animats 12y ago"I'm not sure if the landlords are as savvy as you think." Some of them are. Saeed Amidi, the rug dealer behind Medallion Rug Gallery in Palo Alto is famous for this. He demands some equity in startups leasing his properties. Google's first office was in his space. PayPal's first office was in his space above the bike shop. Facebook's first office too. Also Foursquare, Danger, and others not as successful. Amidi is now a venture capitalist, but he still has the rug stores. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2011/oct/14/welcome-to-silicon-valley-shuffle http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2011/oct/14/welco...