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> The August think tank report found that the median hourly wage is $14 an hour for security guards in Santa Clara County – home to Google and scores of other t
by joelrunyon 12y ago
> The August think tank report found that the median hourly wage is $14 an hour for security guards in Santa Clara County – home to Google and scores of other tech companies. By contrast, the median wage for software developers is roughly $63 an hour.
Obviously - $14/hour is quite low and there's a certain increased level of security that comes with paying guards more (it won't be so easily for them to consider alternative income sources), but does anyone really think that that gap needs to be closed completely? I think they'd be hard pressed to demonstrate that a security guards warrants equal pay with a software developer.
- tedks 12y agoIndeed. This sours Google as an employer for me. I feel slighted, nay, insulted that they would consider someone as lowly as a gate-guard as worthy of the same benefits of a software developer. Software is eating the world and there is literally no profession more vital to modernity. We are disrupting the basis of life itself. More civilized companies should consider Bannerman -- an Uber for security.
- thejosh 12y agoSame benefits? Same pay maybe not, but not the same benefits? Jesus christ you live in a bubble.
- wffurr 12y agoWhoosh.
- jonalmeida 12y agoWhat happens when a lowly paid guard starts caring less of his job when he's surrounded by pompous high paid developers? Their jobs might not require high technical knowledge of computing, but they are still VERY valuable. > We are titans, we are gods. I can't tell if you're kidding or not when you put that bit along with everything else you said.
- joelrunyon 12y agoExactly - I think there's an undeniable increase in security you can achieve just by paying guards more (making them feel secure & happy). I'm sure that tops out at a point - it'd be interesting to see what that curve looks like.
- jmspring 12y agoPompous developers who look down on colleagues - contractor or not - need to have their ass handed to them by management. Unfortunately this rarely happens. One of the very obvious areas where "oh noes I'm a developer, give me my cayron set and coloring book now doesn't play out in big companies is when there is a point contact/office manager. Piss off the office manager and he/she can make your life hell - and they might enjoy it.
- smm2000 12y agoI am curious how office manager can make your life hell? In my 7 years working as software engineer in big companies, I talked to office manager may be 5 times total. The only thing that comes to mind is giving bad seat/office assignment.
- walshemj 12y agoWant a nice desk or want them to go the extra mile when I worked at a large company we made sure that our floor support staff had good pc's back when a sound card was a luxury we made sure they all had one.
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- psykovsky 12y agoThey should have given you some lessons on how to use punctuation, together with the sound cards.
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- whyenot 12y agoUnfortunately, sarcasm doesn't always work on the internet.
- jmspring 12y agoOk, the comment was flagged, the plug for Bannerman, whatever. But if you look at some of the things companies like First Alarm and others are called into help deal with (often because budget for real security isn't there), the crap the individuals put up with is way above what they are getting paid. Unfortunately, disconnects like this are going to continue. The above is very different than what security at a tech office complex will be likely to be put up with.
- mentat 12y agoThe value of software development is the multiplicative application of innovation / creation. Security guarding will never have that (without adjacent technological innovation.)
- walshemj 12y agowell unskilled labour vs overwhelmingly grad entry high skilled professional jobs works like that and devs are underpaid relative to lawyers and MD's