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http://atoday.org/adventist-mission-doctor-speaks-ebola-crisis-foreign-aid.html http://atoday.org/adventist-mission-doctor-speaks-ebola-cris... This doc claims

http://atoday.org/adventist-mission-doctor-speaks-ebola-crisis-foreign-aid.html http://atoday.org/adventist-mission-doctor-speaks-ebola-cris... This doc claims the "health organizations" and aid helped cause of the epidemic. Weird diseases happen so often in that part of the world the west africans know how to deal with it. They quarantine an outbreak village and have the surrounding villages drop off food until the infections burn out. But recently everybody got so excited for the foreign goodies that materialize when you say "ebola," traditional quarantine procedure went out the window.

HarryHirsch 12y ago
You read other stuff from that website, like this http://atoday.org/god-create-evolution.html http://atoday.org/god-create-evolution.html or that http://atoday.org/wilson-ii-president-adventist-general-conference-believe-earth-billions-years-old.html http://atoday.org/wilson-ii-president-adventist-general-conf..., and suddenly you are unsure if you are dealing with trolls or kooks.
- ams6110 12y ago
  Maybe, but it's hard to argue logically against the notion that strict quarantine would be effective, if brutal way of containing the outbreak. Building large central makeshift treatment centers only encourages sick people to travel and infect new populations.
  - HarryHirsch 12y ago
    strict quarantine would be effective, if brutal way of containing the outbreak With a lengthy incubation time, and in an area that's just emerging from several decades of civil war quarantine isn't going to happen. The best hope is that there will soon be a vaccine, preferably before the plague reaches Calcutta, Karachi, Jakarta or Johannesburg. It's not unrealistic, the virus mutates only slowly, and India did get on top of smallpox; there is historical precedent for this approach to work. Quarantine has never been successful during wartime. The Attic plague happened in the middle of a war.
  - jonah 12y ago
    But was that indeed the case that the local healthcare systems were implementing and successfully enforcing quarantines in previous situations? Also, It's not the western cultural mindset to let it "burn out" when they could go in and "save" each person...
- blakeja 12y ago
  So people with a different set of beliefs from your own are "trolls and kooks". Man I get tired of seeing this kind intolerance, lack of respect, call it what you will. Regardless of your feelings about the rest of the site, I do not think the doctor's points are in any way invalidated if you actually read what he has to say, as some others here have already pointed out.
  - CamperBob2 12y ago
    So people with a different set of beliefs from your own are "trolls and kooks". Yes, if the beliefs are different enough in ways that the person cannot possibly justify.
  - vdaniuk 12y ago
    Good. Intelligent and educated people should be actively intolerant of religion, superstition and ignorance. No respect should be offered to irrational, unfounded, faith-based beliefs.

HarryHirsch 12y ago

You read other stuff from that website, like this http://atoday.org/god-create-evolution.html http://atoday.org/god-create-evolution.html or that http://atoday.org/wilson-ii-president-adventist-general-conference-believe-earth-billions-years-old.html http://atoday.org/wilson-ii-president-adventist-general-conf..., and suddenly you are unsure if you are dealing with trolls or kooks.

ams6110 12y ago
Maybe, but it's hard to argue logically against the notion that strict quarantine would be effective, if brutal way of containing the outbreak. Building large central makeshift treatment centers only encourages sick people to travel and infect new populations.
- HarryHirsch 12y ago
  strict quarantine would be effective, if brutal way of containing the outbreak With a lengthy incubation time, and in an area that's just emerging from several decades of civil war quarantine isn't going to happen. The best hope is that there will soon be a vaccine, preferably before the plague reaches Calcutta, Karachi, Jakarta or Johannesburg. It's not unrealistic, the virus mutates only slowly, and India did get on top of smallpox; there is historical precedent for this approach to work. Quarantine has never been successful during wartime. The Attic plague happened in the middle of a war.
- jonah 12y ago
  But was that indeed the case that the local healthcare systems were implementing and successfully enforcing quarantines in previous situations? Also, It's not the western cultural mindset to let it "burn out" when they could go in and "save" each person...
blakeja 12y ago
So people with a different set of beliefs from your own are "trolls and kooks". Man I get tired of seeing this kind intolerance, lack of respect, call it what you will. Regardless of your feelings about the rest of the site, I do not think the doctor's points are in any way invalidated if you actually read what he has to say, as some others here have already pointed out.
- CamperBob2 12y ago
  So people with a different set of beliefs from your own are "trolls and kooks". Yes, if the beliefs are different enough in ways that the person cannot possibly justify.
- vdaniuk 12y ago
  Good. Intelligent and educated people should be actively intolerant of religion, superstition and ignorance. No respect should be offered to irrational, unfounded, faith-based beliefs.