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This is a really ignorant comment, and it's not fair to blame the acts of some bad people on everyone associated with a religion

imaginenore 12y ago
Are you saying there's no problem with Islamic violence? Have you been living under a rock? I base my judgement on what the Muslims say about themselves: http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/vubyx/only_a_tiny_minority_of_extremists/ http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/vubyx/only_a_tiny_m...
- lukifer 12y ago
  Muslims are not homogeneous, and none can speak for the whole.
- pyre 12y ago
  Are you saying there's no problem with Christian bigotry? Have you been living under a rock? I base my judgement on what the Christians say about themselves: http://www.godhatesfags.com/ http://www.godhatesfags.com/
  - imaginenore 12y ago
    You're comparing a tiny tiny Christian church with 30% to 90%+ of the Muslim population. And yeah, Christians do crazy stuff in the name of their religion too all the time. I don't see how that whitewashes Islamic crimes.
    - pyre 12y ago
      > 30% to 90%+ of the Muslim population > 30% to 90%+ This figure has no basis in reality. Even if you cobbled together this opinion from multiple 'surveys' a range that large is meaningless. Why not just say that 0% to 100% of Muslims feel this way, and call it a day? That way it would be impossible to be wrong!
      - imaginenore 12y ago
        It's a range of different surveys on different questions. If you take a particular question, like whether those who quit Islam should be killed, it's not a wide range.
        pyre 12y ago
        Well, why don't you enlighten us by posting links to these surveys?
- neya 12y ago
  >what the Muslims say about themselves I'm no Muslim (just to clarify absence of personal bias), but your statement represents the ideology of a small sample, claiming to represent the ideologies of a collective, larger, possibly different sample (the entire Muslim population), with which it may not even be compatible with. And therein lies the flaw.
- smtddr 12y ago
  Who hijacked my religion --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnxnYEVp4U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnxnYEVp4U http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119694/how-blonde-tattooed-texas-girl-became-isis-twitter-star http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119694/how-blonde-tattooe... >>Non-Muslims sometimes don’t realize how much hatred and negativity gets thrown at Muslims and how utterly soul crushing it can be to have to defend yourself and your beliefs on a daily basis.
- dang 12y ago
  Religious flamewars are not ok on Hacker News. Please stop.

imaginenore 12y ago

Are you saying there's no problem with Islamic violence? Have you been living under a rock? I base my judgement on what the Muslims say about themselves: http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/vubyx/only_a_tiny_minority_of_extremists/ http://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/vubyx/only_a_tiny_m...

lukifer 12y ago
Muslims are not homogeneous, and none can speak for the whole.
pyre 12y ago
Are you saying there's no problem with Christian bigotry? Have you been living under a rock? I base my judgement on what the Christians say about themselves: http://www.godhatesfags.com/ http://www.godhatesfags.com/
- imaginenore 12y ago
  You're comparing a tiny tiny Christian church with 30% to 90%+ of the Muslim population. And yeah, Christians do crazy stuff in the name of their religion too all the time. I don't see how that whitewashes Islamic crimes.
  - pyre 12y ago
    > 30% to 90%+ of the Muslim population > 30% to 90%+ This figure has no basis in reality. Even if you cobbled together this opinion from multiple 'surveys' a range that large is meaningless. Why not just say that 0% to 100% of Muslims feel this way, and call it a day? That way it would be impossible to be wrong!
    - imaginenore 12y ago
      It's a range of different surveys on different questions. If you take a particular question, like whether those who quit Islam should be killed, it's not a wide range.
      - pyre 12y ago
        Well, why don't you enlighten us by posting links to these surveys?
neya 12y ago
>what the Muslims say about themselves I'm no Muslim (just to clarify absence of personal bias), but your statement represents the ideology of a small sample, claiming to represent the ideologies of a collective, larger, possibly different sample (the entire Muslim population), with which it may not even be compatible with. And therein lies the flaw.
smtddr 12y ago
Who hijacked my religion --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnxnYEVp4U http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnxnYEVp4U http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119694/how-blonde-tattooed-texas-girl-became-isis-twitter-star http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119694/how-blonde-tattooe... >>Non-Muslims sometimes don’t realize how much hatred and negativity gets thrown at Muslims and how utterly soul crushing it can be to have to defend yourself and your beliefs on a daily basis.
dang 12y ago
Religious flamewars are not ok on Hacker News. Please stop.