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Serious question: is 180k base now actually the going rate at G/MS/FB for a mid-career engineer?

by scarmig 12y ago

optimiz3 12y ago
It was several years ago, I'm assuming the market has only strengthened.
steven777400 12y ago
I have 10-15 years of experience and my base offer from MSFT (Bellevue) was $110k/year.
- Bahamut 12y ago
  That seems to jive with all I've heard with Google from some friends & acquaintences who are stellar in the Valley - is there anyone else at one of these big companies who can confirm/deny?
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- smm2000 12y ago
  You were low-balled or have particularly shitty resume. 110k is offer for new grads. The right approach to maximizing offer is to get 5-6 offers, do bidding war between companies you do not want to work for and then ask the company you want to work for to match the highest offer.
  - tptacek 12y ago
    Microsoft semi-(in)famously had a strategy of paying 70% of market salary.
    - daniellorenc 12y ago
      When I was at Microsoft ~3 years ago, the strategy was to pay at the 70th percentile of market salaries, not pay 70% of the current market salary.
      - tptacek 12y ago
        Sorry, you're right, 70th percentile. My point though is just that he may not have been lowballed deliberately.
  - steven777400 12y ago
    They came out and told me they didn't think I had the skill level for the senior position I had applied to, but, they had a junior-level position open at that salary. It's more than I make now, but, I turned it down because it wasn't more enough to count for extra hours they expected, the higher cost of living (or commute), and the possibility of getting eaten by the performance evaluation system (at that time, was still the stack ranking and all the horrors it entailed).
patio11 12y ago
Ask a simple question, get a simple answer: yes.
rhc2104 12y ago
The parent comment didn't say over 180k base, he/she said over 180k. Google and Facebook (and some other companies) have upped the ante in compensation by offering lots of (liquid) stock.

Serious question: is 180k base now actually the going rate at G/MS/FB for a mid-career engineer?

by scarmig 12y ago

Serious question: is 180k base now actually the going rate at G/MS/FB for a mid-career engineer?

optimiz3 12y ago

It was several years ago, I'm assuming the market has only strengthened.

steven777400 12y ago

I have 10-15 years of experience and my base offer from MSFT (Bellevue) was $110k/year.

Bahamut 12y ago
That seems to jive with all I've heard with Google from some friends & acquaintences who are stellar in the Valley - is there anyone else at one of these big companies who can confirm/deny?
- deleted 12y ago
  [deleted]
smm2000 12y ago
You were low-balled or have particularly shitty resume. 110k is offer for new grads. The right approach to maximizing offer is to get 5-6 offers, do bidding war between companies you do not want to work for and then ask the company you want to work for to match the highest offer.
- tptacek 12y ago
  Microsoft semi-(in)famously had a strategy of paying 70% of market salary.
  - daniellorenc 12y ago
    When I was at Microsoft ~3 years ago, the strategy was to pay at the 70th percentile of market salaries, not pay 70% of the current market salary.
    - tptacek 12y ago
      Sorry, you're right, 70th percentile. My point though is just that he may not have been lowballed deliberately.
- steven777400 12y ago
  They came out and told me they didn't think I had the skill level for the senior position I had applied to, but, they had a junior-level position open at that salary. It's more than I make now, but, I turned it down because it wasn't more enough to count for extra hours they expected, the higher cost of living (or commute), and the possibility of getting eaten by the performance evaluation system (at that time, was still the stack ranking and all the horrors it entailed).

patio11 12y ago

Ask a simple question, get a simple answer: yes.

rhc2104 12y ago

The parent comment didn't say over 180k base, he/she said over 180k. Google and Facebook (and some other companies) have upped the ante in compensation by offering lots of (liquid) stock.