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Is it me or this feels terribly wrong?
by subb 12y ago
Is it me or this feels terribly wrong?
- gambiting 12y agoThe only part that I didn't like was the "rewards for strangers for rescuing you". Not that there is anything inherently wrong with rewarding people who help you,but I feel like it's kind of wrong to have it advertised as a feature.
- aesraethr 12y agoThe fact is people dont react when someone need help in the street/metro. With this kind of reward incensitive, it give a "bonus" to make people move.
- bitJericho 12y agoIs that a fact? I don't think that's a fact.
- zimbu668 12y agoDiffusion of responsibility is certainly a recognized phenomena: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility
- bitJericho 12y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility#Real-world_examples http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility#Rea... The only example of a person on the street not being helped is actually completely fabricated by the inept police of the time.
- TallGuyShort 12y agoThey're probably referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Psychological_research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Psycho.... It's not a fact that no one helps, but it is a fact that there are psychological issues at play that mean people are less likely to help in those situations.
- bitJericho 12y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Public_reaction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Public... You should read the 5th paragraph down.
- TallGuyShort 12y agoAnd you should read all the peer-reviewed papers in published psychology journals below that document other examples of this and the factors that affect it?
- bitJericho 12y agoI'm not saying such an effect doesn't exist. I'm saying the statement "The fact is people dont react when someone need help in the street/metro. " is patently false. There are many many more anecdotes where people do help. In fact, I havent read one anecdote where this device would have changed anything. It seems to me that most of the deadly delay is caused by shock and fear more than anything else. Feel free to provide me a study where they actually conducted scientifically rigorous tests in public and not just a few guys in a test room. I'd like to see the actual percentage of failures to assist and I'd like to see evidence where this device helps at all. For all we know it could hinder matters, though I would suspect not.
- TallGuyShort 12y agoThen perhaps you need only read my comment. I typed the exact words "It's not a fact that no one helps". I have no interest in providing scientifically rigorous studies for you, I was only helping you see where the GP was probably coming from.
- aesraethr 12y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
- lucio 12y agoIt is not a money reward
- iammyIP 12y agoIt certainly seems wierd, like a quick fix for symptoms with some further possible side effects. The site is down atm, i only saw it partially and it got some strange marketing decisions, like the children toy colors, the rewards for rescuers, and the slogan "never be alone again" which i understand more as a threat than a relief. I guess this is aimed at (over)protective mothers and to be used by children or young women, which then poses the question if they can take responsibility for such easy button presses that alert authorities and random people looking for bounty in the vicinity. Overall, i would put this in the same category as the vaginal razorblades (anti-rape thing like a tampon i read about some days ago): good intention on the surface, but not thought-through, adresses symptoms instead of the cause, might even have unwanted side effects that could do even more harm.