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"Initiated by a Hamas attack on Israel" Narrow interpretations like these show either an ignorance of events or arrogant bias, and are not that hard to avoid a
by cyphunk 12y ago
"Initiated by a Hamas attack on Israel"
Narrow interpretations like these show either an ignorance of events or arrogant bias, and are not that hard to avoid as a writer if you actually try.
- jsz- 12y agoTechnically, the recent conflict was in fact, initiated by Hamas.
- Myrmornis 12y agoWow, I wish I had you around all the time so I could ask you how things technically are, in fact.
- jsz- 12y agoA very helpful and contributing reply. @cyphunk claimed that Hamas did not start the recent conflict and accused Wired for 'narrow interpretation'. According to the FACTS, the recent round of violence in the Gaza strip was triggered by Hamas. I don't understand.
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- cyphunk 12y agoThere was and is still no proof that Hamas was responsible for the kidnapping of the two Israeli's teenagers. Netanyahu was quick to blame Hamas in a manner similar to Bush blaming Iraq for some tacit role in 9/11. Shortly after the event started an Israel spokesperson admitted in private that there was no evidence that Hamas leadership ordered or had any knowledge of the abduction [1][2]. Anti-arab (hateful and extremely disgusting) riots broke out in parts of Israel after the abduction which resulted in an Arab teenager being killed. From this point Hamas started launching rockets and Israel responded with bombing. It is my opinion that all of the parties were complicit in the escalation. It is also my opinion that Israel alone is guilty of heinous war crimes. But I had another point with my comment: The content of the article did not require placing any blame what-so-ever. At best the author placed blame as a means to give Wired's American readership the moral relief they were looking for, something that appears to be a prerequisite for any article or discussion on the PA/IL conflict within the US. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict#Immediate_events https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_confl... 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teenagers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_...
- Myrmornis 12y agoWow, maybe read the reply to you by @cyphunk. You accuse me of being unhelpful and not contributing, and then you fan the flames by making an arrogant capitalized assertion about something which is well known to be controversial. You will note that my reply was sarcastic (as is your first sentence), but did not make arrogant assertions about that over which reasonable minds may differ. You might want to review this exchange and think again about who is contributing to the thread in a reasonable way that respects differing views.
- IkmoIkmo 12y agoTechnically it wasn't at all. It's a lot more complex than people think. But do we really want to have this conversation?
- bakareika 12y agoVery complex, yeah. Hamas kidnapped those kids and murdered them. Bad, bad Israelis, not letting Hamas kill more children like that. This hypocrisy is just ridiculous.
- frandroid 12y agoActually, this was not a Hamas-planned action. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teenagers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_... Also, Israel's response resulted in more than 2000 dead. Proportional indeed.
- jsz- 12y agoThe Israeli-Palestinian conflict is very complicated I agree. But the latest events were triggered by Hammas organization. That's all..
- IkmoIkmo 12y ago
- zvanness 12y agoNow, what are the odds that you are part of that Hasbara thingy? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_(Israel) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_diplomacy_(Israel) http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-students-social-media/2651715/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-s...