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I got voted down for this comment. Please let me know if you ever ran 10 miles and was totally bored by the experience.

baddox 12y ago
For about three years I was running 4-5 miles three times a week (except for approximately two months in the winter), and I always found it quite boring. Challenging, yes, and sometimes rewarding, but still quite boring.
hawkice 12y ago
I ran cross country in high school, running for about an hour 4 to 6 times a week. Extremely boring, pretty much only did it because my parents forced me to do _a_ sport and I didn't want my suckage to hurt a team (I skipped a few grades, and not inflicting this on others was a pretty good diplomatic move).
crimsonalucard 12y ago
Unfortunately I can't relate to the responses. It's hard for me to comprehend how you can be bored and in total pain or out of breath at the same time. It's like saying there's a knife in your shoulder and you're still bored...
- sliverstorm 12y ago
  No long distance runner I have ever met has described running as "total pain". Several look brighter and clearly feel happier after running 2-4 miles. It's nearly rejuvenating for them. Unless they are quite literally masochists, I don't think they spend those 2-4 miles in pure misery.
  - crimsonalucard 12y ago
    You're right poor choice of words I'm just trying to emphasize that there's enough misery to prevent you from being bored.
benihana 12y ago
I can't say why anyone downvoted you, but reading your comment I noticed a few things: 1. Your use of the term running. You make sweeping generalizations about 'running' and the people who run but you don't even define what 'running' is. Is it long, low intensity work like running more than 10 miles? Is it short, high intensity work like sprints? Is it a simple jog a couple times a week? Is it a hard run? Running is a blanket term for many different exercises and exercise styles. 2. You seem to conflate exercise with 'running.' I hate running, but I really enjoy exercise. I love lifting weights, playing sports, and climbing. I don't ever feel pain when I do any of those unless something is very wrong. Discomfort maybe, but discomfort is not pain. 3. Your whole point is hinged upon a logical fallacy. You say that nobody enjoys exercise because nobody really exercises. If they were really exercising, they'd be in pain constantly, and therefore, since nobody enjoys being in pain (an assumption you made in your post) nobody enjoys exercising. I don't hang with a lot of long distance people, but all the weightlifters I exercise with will tell you if you're in pain, something is seriously seriously wrong. 4. Your presumption throughout the post. Take the last sentence. You say that anyone who enjoys exercise has to learn to enjoy it. What is the point of that sentence? Are you speaking from experience? Are you telling people they're not really exercising? Later in this thread, you say you can't relate to the responses. So why are you making sweeping assumptions about people if you can't relate to things they say? 5. You're empirically wrong. There are a handful of responses already with anecdotal evidence to the contrary of everything you say. Millions of people exercise every day and love it, and nobody disputes that exercise is beneficial. It's really hard to understand where you're coming from. The post was odd and confusing. It came off as very presumptuous and arrogant - like you know something about exercise no one here could possibly understand. A good number of people who come here exercise regularly and have learned all about it themselves, and know from their own experiences that what you're saying doesn't make much sense.
crimsonalucard 12y ago
@benihana 1. By running I mean like staying in Zone 3 for an hour or more. Or Zone 4/5 for a minute or two. 2. You call it discomfort, I call it pain, for effect, probably not appropriate but I hope you didn't vote me down for this. 3. I'm not gonna argue about whether or not people enjoy pain (most don't). Exercise in general involves a number of components that feel good and feel bad but the bad is significantly more explicit then the good. This is not a fact but its a generality that's kind of evident when you see the obesity epidemic sweeping across 1st world countries. The majority of the population generally doesn't like to exercise because it is painful and uncomfortable. I think most people can comprehend this statement and it is not a logical fallacy; It is an evident generality. Sometimes I see people in runner circles talk about a thing called "runners high" like it's cocaine, totally glossing over evident factors like why most normal won't run 10 miles just to chase a fabled runner's high. The logic here is obvious: the pain is not worth the high to most people. I can't be sure but I think what's going on with those runners is what's going on here in this thread, a sort of unconscious denial about an obvious generality. -- If weight training doesn't involve any pain, then I can't speak for it. I'm speaking for exercise in general which I believe I am correct. 4. Pain is usually not something that is enjoyed. If you do enjoy it it tends to be something that was learned. Like wine or beer. If that's not the case for you, ok, but I think the general notion is that these things are an "acquired taste" aka "learned," hence the presumption. And yes I am telling people that they may not really be exercising. I see a lot of people quitting and doing things incorrectly with useless results. 5. Millions may exercise but Billions and billions of more people don't exercise because it's painful and uncomfortable. Are you telling me these groups of people cannot even comprehend one another? I think the average athlete has enough intelligence to comprehend why he is one of the few and why the majority of people on this earth don't exercise. Anecdotal evidence on this thread is nothing compared to anecdotal evidence from the real world.

For about three years I was running 4-5 miles three times a week (except for approximately two months in the winter), and I always found it quite boring. Challenging, yes, and sometimes rewarding, but still quite boring.

hawkice 12y ago

I ran cross country in high school, running for about an hour 4 to 6 times a week. Extremely boring, pretty much only did it because my parents forced me to do _a_ sport and I didn't want my suckage to hurt a team (I skipped a few grades, and not inflicting this on others was a pretty good diplomatic move).

crimsonalucard 12y ago

Unfortunately I can't relate to the responses. It's hard for me to comprehend how you can be bored and in total pain or out of breath at the same time. It's like saying there's a knife in your shoulder and you're still bored...

sliverstorm 12y ago
No long distance runner I have ever met has described running as "total pain". Several look brighter and clearly feel happier after running 2-4 miles. It's nearly rejuvenating for them. Unless they are quite literally masochists, I don't think they spend those 2-4 miles in pure misery.
- crimsonalucard 12y ago
  You're right poor choice of words I'm just trying to emphasize that there's enough misery to prevent you from being bored.

benihana 12y ago

I can't say why anyone downvoted you, but reading your comment I noticed a few things: 1. Your use of the term running. You make sweeping generalizations about 'running' and the people who run but you don't even define what 'running' is. Is it long, low intensity work like running more than 10 miles? Is it short, high intensity work like sprints? Is it a simple jog a couple times a week? Is it a hard run? Running is a blanket term for many different exercises and exercise styles. 2. You seem to conflate exercise with 'running.' I hate running, but I really enjoy exercise. I love lifting weights, playing sports, and climbing. I don't ever feel pain when I do any of those unless something is very wrong. Discomfort maybe, but discomfort is not pain. 3. Your whole point is hinged upon a logical fallacy. You say that nobody enjoys exercise because nobody really exercises. If they were really exercising, they'd be in pain constantly, and therefore, since nobody enjoys being in pain (an assumption you made in your post) nobody enjoys exercising. I don't hang with a lot of long distance people, but all the weightlifters I exercise with will tell you if you're in pain, something is seriously seriously wrong. 4. Your presumption throughout the post. Take the last sentence. You say that anyone who enjoys exercise has to learn to enjoy it. What is the point of that sentence? Are you speaking from experience? Are you telling people they're not really exercising? Later in this thread, you say you can't relate to the responses. So why are you making sweeping assumptions about people if you can't relate to things they say? 5. You're empirically wrong. There are a handful of responses already with anecdotal evidence to the contrary of everything you say. Millions of people exercise every day and love it, and nobody disputes that exercise is beneficial. It's really hard to understand where you're coming from. The post was odd and confusing. It came off as very presumptuous and arrogant - like you know something about exercise no one here could possibly understand. A good number of people who come here exercise regularly and have learned all about it themselves, and know from their own experiences that what you're saying doesn't make much sense.

crimsonalucard 12y ago

@benihana 1. By running I mean like staying in Zone 3 for an hour or more. Or Zone 4/5 for a minute or two. 2. You call it discomfort, I call it pain, for effect, probably not appropriate but I hope you didn't vote me down for this. 3. I'm not gonna argue about whether or not people enjoy pain (most don't). Exercise in general involves a number of components that feel good and feel bad but the bad is significantly more explicit then the good. This is not a fact but its a generality that's kind of evident when you see the obesity epidemic sweeping across 1st world countries. The majority of the population generally doesn't like to exercise because it is painful and uncomfortable. I think most people can comprehend this statement and it is not a logical fallacy; It is an evident generality. Sometimes I see people in runner circles talk about a thing called "runners high" like it's cocaine, totally glossing over evident factors like why most normal won't run 10 miles just to chase a fabled runner's high. The logic here is obvious: the pain is not worth the high to most people. I can't be sure but I think what's going on with those runners is what's going on here in this thread, a sort of unconscious denial about an obvious generality. -- If weight training doesn't involve any pain, then I can't speak for it. I'm speaking for exercise in general which I believe I am correct. 4. Pain is usually not something that is enjoyed. If you do enjoy it it tends to be something that was learned. Like wine or beer. If that's not the case for you, ok, but I think the general notion is that these things are an "acquired taste" aka "learned," hence the presumption. And yes I am telling people that they may not really be exercising. I see a lot of people quitting and doing things incorrectly with useless results. 5. Millions may exercise but Billions and billions of more people don't exercise because it's painful and uncomfortable. Are you telling me these groups of people cannot even comprehend one another? I think the average athlete has enough intelligence to comprehend why he is one of the few and why the majority of people on this earth don't exercise. Anecdotal evidence on this thread is nothing compared to anecdotal evidence from the real world.