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While digital content right now is a big thing, there's a lot of us that only buy physical media. I don't want to invest my hard earned money into something of

While digital content right now is a big thing, there's a lot of us that only buy physical media. I don't want to invest my hard earned money into something of no actual value. I don't buy digital downloads, I only buy on blu-ray (though I would go with dvd if something's not available on blu-ray). I don't buy mp3s or whatever else, I only buy CDs. The only thing I buy digitally is from Steam because they are far and away better than dealing with physical game media currently.

Someone1234 12y ago
I might have understood your argument with regards to DVDs, CDs, and so on. But when you use Blu Ray as an example I get lost. Blu Rays are inherently no more a "sure thing" than digital media, by design. Blu Ray discs when inserted both check the licence of the Blu Ray player and the Blu Ray player checks the licence of the disc. If either is "invalid" then the disc won't play (and incidentally both discs AND players have been blacklisted in mandatory updates). MP3 on the other hand is much more "free" than Blu Ray. There's no licence, there's no revocation, it "just works" and will likely always "just work" which definitely cannot be said for Blu Rays. Blu Ray is an absurdly overly complex technology. So much so that most digital content is less complex than Blu Ray by a significant amount.
- bitJericho 12y ago
  Blu-ray DRM is incredibly simple to bypass. In 20 or 30 years when the collection will still be worth a couple bucks at a garage sale, DRM free players will be the norm.
theandrewbailey 12y ago
> While digital content right now is a big thing, there's a lot of us that only buy physical media. I don't want to invest my hard earned money into something of no actual value. ... I don't buy mp3s or whatever else, I only buy CDs. DRM-free files have more value to me than stacks of optical discs, because raw files are easier to back up and keep in several places.
- bitJericho 12y ago
  I'd love to ship you my collection of X. I'll give it to you for 20 bucks plus shipping. Let me know if you're interested ;) Also, I can make backups of my blu-rays all day. I can transcode them or whatever I like. It's not like just because sony says no I have to listen to them.
  - theandrewbailey 12y ago
    > Also, I can make backups of my blu-rays all day. I'm not disputing that. It's that backing up files isn't a manually intensive process, whereas backing up blu-rays is. In fact, it might literally take you all day to do so. Backing up files can take 0 seconds of the day, and you don't even need to think about it. That's why I like to buy digital: it saves time.
    - bitJericho 12y ago
      It takes my PC less than an hour or so to pull a blu-ray if memory serves. The long wait is the transcoding.

Someone1234 12y ago

I might have understood your argument with regards to DVDs, CDs, and so on. But when you use Blu Ray as an example I get lost. Blu Rays are inherently no more a "sure thing" than digital media, by design. Blu Ray discs when inserted both check the licence of the Blu Ray player and the Blu Ray player checks the licence of the disc. If either is "invalid" then the disc won't play (and incidentally both discs AND players have been blacklisted in mandatory updates). MP3 on the other hand is much more "free" than Blu Ray. There's no licence, there's no revocation, it "just works" and will likely always "just work" which definitely cannot be said for Blu Rays. Blu Ray is an absurdly overly complex technology. So much so that most digital content is less complex than Blu Ray by a significant amount.

bitJericho 12y ago
Blu-ray DRM is incredibly simple to bypass. In 20 or 30 years when the collection will still be worth a couple bucks at a garage sale, DRM free players will be the norm.

theandrewbailey 12y ago

> While digital content right now is a big thing, there's a lot of us that only buy physical media. I don't want to invest my hard earned money into something of no actual value. ... I don't buy mp3s or whatever else, I only buy CDs. DRM-free files have more value to me than stacks of optical discs, because raw files are easier to back up and keep in several places.

bitJericho 12y ago
I'd love to ship you my collection of X. I'll give it to you for 20 bucks plus shipping. Let me know if you're interested ;) Also, I can make backups of my blu-rays all day. I can transcode them or whatever I like. It's not like just because sony says no I have to listen to them.
- theandrewbailey 12y ago
  > Also, I can make backups of my blu-rays all day. I'm not disputing that. It's that backing up files isn't a manually intensive process, whereas backing up blu-rays is. In fact, it might literally take you all day to do so. Backing up files can take 0 seconds of the day, and you don't even need to think about it. That's why I like to buy digital: it saves time.
  - bitJericho 12y ago
    It takes my PC less than an hour or so to pull a blu-ray if memory serves. The long wait is the transcoding.