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What an awful decade this is to be a single man. Men have been so vilified that now mere acts of courtship (not the strawman examples in the article), are cons

What an awful decade this is to be a single man. Men have been so vilified that now mere acts of courtship (not the strawman examples in the article), are considered misogyny. With rising trends of authoritarianism in the western world, it's almost like we're getting our own anti-sex league a la 1984. This isn't progress: it's repression.

omegaworks 12y ago
>Men have been so vilified that now mere acts of courtship Please provide examples. Strawman: a person compared to a straw image; a sham. a sham argument set up to be defeated. How exactly are the examples in the article, which the app author states she experienced in her own life, shams or arguments set up to be defeated?
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- thrownquiteaway 12y ago
  When talking about vilification, I think the poster is referring to articles like this: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/2014/07/11/richard-feynman-sexism-and-changing-perceptions-of-a-scientific-icon/ http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction... that say things like >What startled me the most was the fact that when he was a young, boyish looking professor at Cornell, Feynman used to pretend to be a student so he could ask undergraduate women out. I suspect that this kind of behavior on the part of a contemporary professor would almost certainly lead to harsh disciplinary action, as it should. The behavior was clearly, egregiously wrong and when I read about it my view of Feynman definitely went down a notch, and a large notch at that. Oh no! He was attracted to and dated women! How terrible!
  - dneronique 12y ago
    >> Oh no! He was attracted to and dated women! How terrible! No one is taking him down a notch for being attracted to/dating women. It's his chosen techniques in doing so. I'm going to say on a whole, most females enjoy being considered attractive and enjoy being dated. There just happens to be quite a few ways you can fuck up going about it. Deception is one.
bruceb 12y ago
Uh. Relative to other parts of history it is a better time to a single middle classish man. 50 years ago most men had to be married to engage in romantic "happenings". Now you don't.
- ObviousScience 12y ago
  > 50 years ago most men had to be married to engage in romantic "happenings" I don't believe that this is actually true, and expect that it's likely a revision of history pitched by people who wish that were true, eg, people pitching the 50s and 60s as some of idyllic time where the social propaganda matched reality. In general thinking that the habits of hormonal teenagers varied so greatly over time, particularly over 50 years, is a bit silly. It also doesn't explain why so many young ladies went to live with their relatives out of town for 9-12 months, or why they suddenly had new siblings/cousins when they returned. There are wide spread accounts of this, and it's a consistent element of fiction dating back a long time. Don't confuse social fiction with the truth.
  - bruceb 12y ago
    I got voted down for my answer funny. While no doubt the olden days are romanticized I agree. No one is saying hormones have changed. The cultural stigma, parental control, and other factors kept them in check more. This is undeniable.

omegaworks 12y ago

>Men have been so vilified that now mere acts of courtship Please provide examples. Strawman: a person compared to a straw image; a sham. a sham argument set up to be defeated. How exactly are the examples in the article, which the app author states she experienced in her own life, shams or arguments set up to be defeated?

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thrownquiteaway 12y ago
When talking about vilification, I think the poster is referring to articles like this: http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/2014/07/11/richard-feynman-sexism-and-changing-perceptions-of-a-scientific-icon/ http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction... that say things like >What startled me the most was the fact that when he was a young, boyish looking professor at Cornell, Feynman used to pretend to be a student so he could ask undergraduate women out. I suspect that this kind of behavior on the part of a contemporary professor would almost certainly lead to harsh disciplinary action, as it should. The behavior was clearly, egregiously wrong and when I read about it my view of Feynman definitely went down a notch, and a large notch at that. Oh no! He was attracted to and dated women! How terrible!
- dneronique 12y ago
  >> Oh no! He was attracted to and dated women! How terrible! No one is taking him down a notch for being attracted to/dating women. It's his chosen techniques in doing so. I'm going to say on a whole, most females enjoy being considered attractive and enjoy being dated. There just happens to be quite a few ways you can fuck up going about it. Deception is one.

bruceb 12y ago

Uh. Relative to other parts of history it is a better time to a single middle classish man. 50 years ago most men had to be married to engage in romantic "happenings". Now you don't.

ObviousScience 12y ago
> 50 years ago most men had to be married to engage in romantic "happenings" I don't believe that this is actually true, and expect that it's likely a revision of history pitched by people who wish that were true, eg, people pitching the 50s and 60s as some of idyllic time where the social propaganda matched reality. In general thinking that the habits of hormonal teenagers varied so greatly over time, particularly over 50 years, is a bit silly. It also doesn't explain why so many young ladies went to live with their relatives out of town for 9-12 months, or why they suddenly had new siblings/cousins when they returned. There are wide spread accounts of this, and it's a consistent element of fiction dating back a long time. Don't confuse social fiction with the truth.
- bruceb 12y ago
  I got voted down for my answer funny. While no doubt the olden days are romanticized I agree. No one is saying hormones have changed. The cultural stigma, parental control, and other factors kept them in check more. This is undeniable.